2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs 2012 Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca

Lug · 02-03-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Wait...so you mean the car with a solid rear axle and little bitty tires might not be as good as a car with IRS and some real tires when it comes to the road bending and bumping?

We already knew how this would go. GM knows how to actually put a suspension and some tire under a car. Ford knows how to perfect the SRA, but they have yet to figure IRS out, unless you count the Ford GT, which was recalled for breaking all 6 control arms, and turned VERY poor lap-times at every track it was tested on, given its power/weight.

Once again, the inevitable occurs, and the car with a modern suspension trumps the log-wagon. I was kicking mustang arse in my Trans Am back in the day of LS1's because the mustang just couldn't put even its little measly 260bhp (or 320 for the Cobra's) down. Ford didn't correct the problem back in '05 when I worked for a Ford dealer, and the cars hooked HORRIBLY.

I think the mustang is a great car, but can Ford PLEASE! stop shafting its customers with it's SRA which limits handling rougher/wavy pavement and forces them to use skinny tires because of lateral movement!? Put an IRS under the car, and it might just do what it should have been doing all along!

Until then, it's a killer pony-car. Lets evolve it, though!

*rant/off*

So you don't think the extra >100 hp on the Camaro had anything to do with it? I'll go way out on a limb and say the GT500 will destroy the Camaro......with the SRA.

ImportConvert · 02-03-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Lug

So you don't think the extra >100 hp on the Camaro had anything to do with it? I'll go way out on a limb and say the GT500 will destroy the Camaro......with the SRA.

No, I don't think the Camaro's extra >100hp had anything to do with it entering the corners, carrying more velocity through them, and being more composed over rougher sections of the track.

m4a1mustang · 02-03-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

No, I don't think the Camaro's extra >100hp had anything to do with it entering the corners, carrying more velocity through them, and being more composed over rougher sections of the track.

But if the GT500 laps faster than the ZL1 you're going to blame the extra HP, right?

ImportConvert · 02-03-2012, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

But if the GT500 laps faster than the ZL1 you're going to blame the extra HP, right?

No, I'm going to be very surprised.

On a long and fast track like VIR the GT500 with it's 100hp more and near identical weight MIGHT make up for the ZL1's superior handling, but we will have to look at the numbers. However, that remains to be seen. The point here is that the Camaro killed the BOSS in the corners. IT wasn't like the BOSS was holding its own until the straightaways. Look at cornering velocity upon entry/exit.

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On the road course, the Camaro was 2.4 seconds a lap quicker and almost 10 mph faster at the end of the back straight. Roughly 4 of those mph were courtesy of higher cornering speed carried out of the previous turn. Even without the big power difference on the straight, the Camaro would have been constantly making ground on the Mustang with mid-corner speed.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz1lKwu8yuA

*I'm tired and going to bed now. I'm getting far too excited over this, lol

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