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Originally Posted by Red__Zed What do you mean it won't shift gears for me? How will I sip my latte? *storms out of dealership* but true "WTF do you mean

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Old 01-05-2012, 10:14 AM   #31 (permalink)
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What do you mean it won't shift gears for me? How will I sip my latte?


*storms out of dealership*
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"WTF do you mean i can't get it in an automatic??!!"
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What do you mean it won't shift gears for me? How will I sip my latte?


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I feel that way when I drive to/from work. Hitherto I have been unsuccessful in operating my clutch pedal or moving the gear lever with my Jedi mind powers.
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"WTF do you mean i can't get it in an automatic??!!"
I read a blurb today that only 1 in 20 cars these days is available with a manual transmission.

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I feel that way when I drive to/from work. Hitherto I have been unsuccessful in operating my clutch pedal or moving the gear lever with my Jedi mind powers.
you must unlearn what you have learned...
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I read a blurb today that only 1 in 20 cars these days is available with a manual transmission.

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yup it's true, the best anti-theft device out right now is a clutch pedal!
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yup it's true, the best anti-theft device out right now is a clutch pedal!
Ain't that the truth.
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but that's all it is. cars like zr1 and viper acr may be very fast on the track, almost race car-like performance, but they don't work well on the road. Not to mention all the cheap build quality and corner cutting. These cars are excellent as the occasional weekend toy or trackday car, but for a refined, comfortable, daily driver you can drive all year round and run errands in, the 911 turbo and the gtr are hands down the better cars.
Ever own or drive one?

I can flat-out tell you that you are wrong there.

Ride/work well on the road: The ZR1 drives VERY smoothly. It is softer riding than a NISMO Z by far on Touring setting, and I dare say a bit softer than the 370Z Sport. Very compliant and assured. Ferrari borrowed GM's suspension, not the other way around.

Cheap build quality/corner cutting: The only place quality was cut is the interior. Then, it is materials, not build quality. The corvette is very well built. I spent nearly 20 hours watching them build mine. They did a fantastic job. Further, the corvette had a PPH of only 62 at the time of my purchase. This is superior to what Porsche published in 2010. Their 2011 data I am unaware of.

Errands: The corvette has massive grocery-space in the back. You can all but haul lumber in it. Plenty of space to run errands. If you want a year-round car, the GTR fails miserably. It's too low to the ground for snow. So is the ZR1, 911, or any other sports car. The only thing better about the GTR and 911 is the interior, which I think is the only place the corvette messed up.

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well i do still love to row my own gears but dual clutch transmissions are the way of the future (DeCaprio, Aviator). they are the best of both worlds. once they become cost effective as an option, manual transmissions will go the way of the dodo...
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I forgot about the magnetic ride control. That stuff does wonders.
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I forgot about the magnetic ride control. That stuff does wonders.
Yes it does. Night and day. Try driving a ZR1 and I bet you change your mind about how "comfortable" that GTR/911 are over rougher roads.
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Errands: The corvette has massive grocery-space in the back. You can all but haul lumber in it. Plenty of space to run errands. If you want a year-round car, the GTR fails miserably. It's too low to the ground for snow. So is the ZR1, 911, or any other sports car. The only thing better about the GTR and 911 is the interior, which I think is the only place the corvette messed up.
i will give you the vette has a decent trunk area, especially compared to a 911 but the 911 and the GTR perform pretty well in the snow/inclement weather with their AWD and if i'm not mistaken, the GTR has the most ground clearance of any car in it's class. if it was snowing out and i had to go somewhere, that'd be the car i wanted to be in
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Yes it does. Night and day. Try driving a ZR1 and I bet you change your mind about how "comfortable" that GTR/911 are over rougher roads.
yea i was impressed with it on the 599 GTO i drove
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