I forgot about the magnetic ride control. That stuff does wonders.

Yes it does. Night and day. Try driving a ZR1 and I bet you change your mind about how "comfortable" that GTR/911 are over rougher roads.

i will give you the vette has a decent trunk area, especially compared to a 911 but the 911 and the GTR perform pretty well in the snow/inclement weather with their AWD and if i'm not mistaken, the GTR has the most ground clearance of any car in it's class. if it was snowing out and i had to go somewhere, that'd be the car i wanted to be in

yea i was impressed with it on the 599 GTO i drove :driving:

Sports cars with snow tires are fine for [light] snow or freshly plowed/packed snow.

Does it shift my gears so I can sip my latte?

Yes, Nissan even tried to say the GT-R had a "mud/snow" mode (also known as Launch Control)...

However, if you are daily driving one of these cars in the snow, why not drive the ZR1? You're obviously rich as hell and just out to see what you can destroy, so why not do it in tail-wagging style?

ZR1 doesn't need you to shift. First gear will take you anywhere you need to go in the US if you stick to the slow-lane on the freeway and are content with doing a bit over 60. :tup:

No but it helps prevent spillage.

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if i'm driving in the snow, it's to get to work or the grocery store so i can eat. i'm sure the GTR would be fun in the snow too if you wanted it to be. it's 98% rear torque bias means the back end would step out with no problem, but instead of having to practice your drifting skills, you just give it more gas and the front grabs and pulls the car back into shape. to me, that's preferable but to each their own :shrugs:

Anyone else surprised that they have the Panamera Turbo S in 3rd place, but they didn't test a 911? Is that just because the 2012 911's aren't available yet?

yea there wasn't anything new from the 911 camp to test other than the GT2 RS i believe, maybe the GT3 RS 4.0. and no, i'm not surprised. top gear tested the car against the maser and AM rapide back when it came out and it was waayyyyy faster than both. despite it's ugly looks (imo), it is a stuuuupid fast car. the first time i drove a cayenne turbo at work it absolutely blew me away how fast it was and how well it handled for something so big and heavy. that elephant can dance! i can only imagine what the new ones are like with more power and 600lbs less weight or whatever it is

where the heck did u get to drive a 599 gto? :eek::eek:

Damn, 1st gear takes you 60 mph? That's almost 100 km/h? A 370z would be close to redlining in 2nd gear at that speed!

You should see the stuff this guy gets to photograph...

Yes, now you understand why I think my Z06 is a bit much for the street at times. It will do the same thing. The top of 2nd gear is go-to-jail speed on most public highways at the officer's discretion. 4th gear = 160mph.

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Gotta be able to put that power down. :icon17: I think it runs up to 66mph or so.

Puts it down fine in warm weather. Not so much, now, lol

You should have seen me this morning... :bowrofl: Winter wheels go on this weekend. :icon17:

My Z doesn't even hit 180* by the time I get to work, so I can't have any morning fun :(

Pfft you can have "fun" on ice cold summer tires at 1,500 rpm if you want. :icon17:

I haven't been able to put the hammer down in months

Torque baby

I haz all seasons.......

Enjoy your cold weather grip! :tiphat:

With Blizzaks on everything is all squishy and the traction control will come on pretty easily so even when I do let loose it isn't very gratifying. That first drive when I put on the summer meats back on is titillating to say the least.

That's why I love my Dunlop WinterSports. Much better dry performance than the Blizzaks, while being good enough to handle the light snow that I would have to drive in.

If I could only get the car warm enough in time......

Find a longer commute. :hello:

Then that takes away from my sleep time :roflpuke2:

/\ exactly my thoughts, well, that and once again the boss 302 looks like another kick *** car I'd wouldn't mind owning.

yup agree^ :iagree:

:bowrofl:gotta love them super ponies...

Ugh, the link is to the chicago garage...Been a while since I've raise my head around there.

wow i am surprised that the mustang did so well. i didn't expect it to beat the porsche cayman R

I wish they'd do some old cars like the NSX or the F40 or last RX-7 to set some baselines. Or to brag about the NSX some more :D

To me, a big difference between the zr1 and the gt-r (form what i have read anyway) is that they are both beasts and equally capable, but the difference is how capable it makes the driver. The zr1 is definitely as capable, but requires more skill to drive successfully closer tot he car's limit. The gtr is easier to drive closer to the limit for less skilled drivers which is in tune with Nissan's goals of a supercar anyone can drive. Can a zr1 beat a gtr? Sure and vice versa, but I think more people will do better in a gtr than they would in the zr1. SO if you're a great driver, zr1 is great for you or get whichever you like. If you're not as good of a driver but want to compete with the better drivers, get the gtr for sure, haha. This is a problem I would love to have someday.

repped

thanks, i think that is my first rep, haha. people are always comparing cars' limits and potential but most of us cant drive at that level anyway which is why i love the gtr. But realistically, unless I win the lotto, the closets I will ever come to that is dropping a SC into my Z. I bet that would be plenty more than I can handle close the limit already anyway and would probably get me into trouble or dangerous situations, haha.

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