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Old 01-02-2012, 11:44 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:47 AM   #32 (permalink)
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CRZ is slow and the new Civic Si is disappointing.
Honda just doesn't have a car that appeals to the enthusiast market anymore.
They went the Toyota route.
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Old 01-02-2012, 12:06 PM   #33 (permalink)
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honda's finest to be a 3.5 V6? and 400bhp? what are they thinking.. latest GTR is good for 530hp out of the box and runs 3.8ltr twin turbo.

Honda needs to get its head out of its xxx and wake up to reality...

and the styling???? most are gonna call it an R8 copy..
Depends where it comes in on price, if it's 20K less then a GT-R...
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Depends where it comes in on price, if it's 20K less then a GT-R...
IF this new nsx comes in at a 60 to 70K price point, i could see this selling, but it's performance is still going to leave a lot to be desired when you start looking at similarly priced cars -- GT500, C6/C7 vette etc.

R8 copy or not, I think that rendering looks good, but it's just going to be too far down on power/performance for what I'm expecting them to really charge for it (80-100K) to ever consider it.
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but its a hybrid too!
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but its a hybrid too!
not necessarily a bad thing in my book. if it's primarily rwd with hybrid assist motors on each of the front wheels, that could be pretty cool assuming the tech operates seamlessly from the driver's perspective. Good mpg, good performance, cleaner etc is not a bad thing and all those things don't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive.
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[QUOTE=FL 4Motion;1472644]IF this new nsx comes in at a 60 to 70K price point, i could see this selling, but it's performance is still going to leave a lot to be desired when you start looking at similarly priced cars -- GT500, C6/C7 vette etc.QUOTE]

True, the 20k less would put it into even more compition as you mentioned...well nevermind then. At least it looks not too bad.
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IF this new nsx comes in at a 60 to 70K price point, i could see this selling, but it's performance is still going to leave a lot to be desired when you start looking at similarly priced cars -- GT500, C6/C7 vette etc.QUOTE]

True, the 20k less would put it into even more compition as you mentioned...well nevermind then. At least it looks not too bad.
If it was at least 500hp and came in at around 100K, it'd be a hit I think, to be taken seriously nowadays in the supercar world, you NEED to be packing at least 500hp. Anything less and you're just a plain jane sports car and there's plenty of those around for a lot less coin. (exception to the rule: lotus type cars that are super duper lightweight and can get away with less hp).
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If it was at least 500hp and came in at around 100K, it'd be a hit I think, to be taken seriously nowadays in the supercar world, you NEED to be packing at least 500hp. Anything less and you're just a plain jane sports car and there's plenty of those around for a lot less coin. (exception to the rule: lotus type cars that are super duper lightweight and can get away with less hp).
Yeah 500 min, and under 3300LBS. with the right price.
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Yeah 500 min, and under 3300LBS. with the right price.
Unless you are the GT-R.
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hopefully honda wont make only 500 copies of it, market it as an "exclusive" supercar, and price it above ferraris and lamborghinis like that certain other japanese car maker, the one notorious for making boring transportation appliances with stuck throttle pedals
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hopefully honda wont make only 500 copies of it, market it as an "exclusive" supercar, and price it above ferraris and lamborghinis like that certain other japanese car maker, the one notorious for making boring transportation appliances with stuck throttle pedals
For the record the faulty component that caused the stuck throttle was designed and manufactured by an AMERICAN company. The Denso made components for the Japanese manufactured cars were never a problem just the US made ones. FWIW

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Yeah 500 min, and under 3300LBS. with the right price.
Depending on how the hybrid system is implemented this magic 500 hp may not be as bad as it sounds. If they use electric motors to actually drive the wheels then that's gonna be one hell of a flat torque curve.
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IF this new nsx comes in at a 60 to 70K price point, i could see this selling, but it's performance is still going to leave a lot to be desired when you start looking at similarly priced cars -- GT500, C6/C7 vette etc.

R8 copy or not, I think that rendering looks good, but it's just going to be too far down on power/performance for what I'm expecting them to really charge for it (80-100K) to ever consider it.
If it weighs 2700# it will be fine. Remember, the original NSX set some records for construction/weight. Further, consider the quality.
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If it weighs 2700# it will be fine. Remember, the original NSX set some records for construction/weight. Further, consider the quality.
/\ oh no doubt. I just am a bit skeptical about it being a super lightweight car since they stated hybrid tech in there. Now, to get that super lightweight and still be a hybrid, they it will probably be more like a 150-200K car.

yeah, I still love the old NSXs, a timeless car imo.
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If it weighs 2700# it will be fine. Remember, the original NSX set some records for construction/weight. Further, consider the quality.
unlikely it will weigh anywhere near that unless it was the size of a tin can, or a lotus elise, not that there's much difference between them

The other alternative is using exotic materials, mainly carbon fibre. but that will price it right out of the market, unless honda is willing to eat up a huge loss on each car. Even then it still won't meet that weight target. The mp 4-12c also uses extensive carbon fibre structures in its frame, yet still weighs a bit over 3000 pounds.
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