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Pharmacist 01-02-2012 05:35 PM

hopefully honda wont make only 500 copies of it, market it as an "exclusive" supercar, and price it above ferraris and lamborghinis like that certain other japanese car maker, the one notorious for making boring transportation appliances with stuck throttle pedals :rolleyes:

gomer_110 01-02-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist (Post 1473035)
hopefully honda wont make only 500 copies of it, market it as an "exclusive" supercar, and price it above ferraris and lamborghinis like that certain other japanese car maker, the one notorious for making boring transportation appliances with stuck throttle pedals :rolleyes:

For the record the faulty component that caused the stuck throttle was designed and manufactured by an AMERICAN company. The Denso made components for the Japanese manufactured cars were never a problem just the US made ones. FWIW :stirthepot:

[QUOTE=90 ST;1472927]
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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1472919)

Yeah 500 min, and under 3300LBS. with the right price.

Depending on how the hybrid system is implemented this magic 500 hp may not be as bad as it sounds. If they use electric motors to actually drive the wheels then that's gonna be one hell of a flat torque curve.

ImportConvert 01-02-2012 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1472644)
IF this new nsx comes in at a 60 to 70K price point, i could see this selling, but it's performance is still going to leave a lot to be desired when you start looking at similarly priced cars -- GT500, C6/C7 vette etc.

R8 copy or not, I think that rendering looks good, but it's just going to be too far down on power/performance for what I'm expecting them to really charge for it (80-100K) to ever consider it.

If it weighs 2700# it will be fine. Remember, the original NSX set some records for construction/weight. Further, consider the quality.

FL 4Motion 01-02-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1473357)
If it weighs 2700# it will be fine. Remember, the original NSX set some records for construction/weight. Further, consider the quality.

/\ oh no doubt. I just am a bit skeptical about it being a super lightweight car since they stated hybrid tech in there. Now, to get that super lightweight and still be a hybrid, they it will probably be more like a 150-200K car.

yeah, I still love the old NSXs, a timeless car imo.

Pharmacist 01-02-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1473357)
If it weighs 2700# it will be fine. Remember, the original NSX set some records for construction/weight. Further, consider the quality.

unlikely it will weigh anywhere near that unless it was the size of a tin can, or a lotus elise, not that there's much difference between them :bowrofl:

The other alternative is using exotic materials, mainly carbon fibre. but that will price it right out of the market, unless honda is willing to eat up a huge loss on each car. Even then it still won't meet that weight target. The mp 4-12c also uses extensive carbon fibre structures in its frame, yet still weighs a bit over 3000 pounds.

Isamu 01-02-2012 10:58 PM

they should just throw safety out the window and make it ultra lite!

Brazilbro 01-03-2012 12:06 AM

0-62 in under 5 secs ... With awd...........That's mind blowing performance..:shakes head:

Rooster89 01-03-2012 01:47 AM

way i see it. this will flop. honda has flopped. toyota has flopped. subie and mitsu are hurtin a lil and nissan seems ok. Its just taking me a long time to realize the 90s are over. may JDM go on. but its struggling. maybe the toyobaru is the way to go. subie and mitsu are expensive. the 370z is expensive. the GT-R is a huuuuge hit. maybe japan should focus more on the 20-29k segment. and not a lancer gts and impreza.

im afraid the automotive world is becoming more and more german. thx Volkswagen

i dunno. all opinion. no facts in my post. too lazy for facts.

Isamu 01-03-2012 02:14 AM

lol Rooster...

FL 4Motion 01-03-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster89 (Post 1473538)
way i see it. this will flop. honda has flopped. toyota has flopped. subie and mitsu are hurtin a lil and nissan seems ok. Its just taking me a long time to realize the 90s are over. may JDM go on. but its struggling. maybe the toyobaru is the way to go. subie and mitsu are expensive. the 370z is expensive. the GT-R is a huuuuge hit. maybe japan should focus more on the 20-29k segment. and not a lancer gts and impreza.

im afraid the automotive world is becoming more and more german. thx Volkswagen

i dunno. all opinion. no facts in my post. too lazy for facts.

Isn't VAG the biggest automotive manufacturer nowadays?

It'll all work itself out, survival of the automotive fittest and all that.

Isamu 01-03-2012 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1474522)
Isn't VAG the biggest automotive manufacturer nowadays?

It'll all work itself out, survival of the automotive fittest and all that.

I sure do love VAG...

FL 4Motion 01-03-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1474535)
I sure do love VAG...

:tup:

Isamu 01-03-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1474572)
:tup:


:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Fastfatdude 01-05-2012 04:14 AM

well, if its gonna be Honda's finest after such a long time, i doubt if it will be priced lower than a GTR. at least not where i come from... Singapore.

should be looking at easily USD300k when it arrives here..

oh well, way out of my price range..

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Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 1472447)
Depends where it comes in on price, if it's 20K less then a GT-R...


Fastfatdude 01-05-2012 04:16 AM

never drove an NSX but the s2000 was sweet.. even though underpowered..

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1472376)
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FWIW, S2000 is exempt from my Honda bashing. :D


Isamu 01-05-2012 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastfatdude (Post 1476777)
well, if its gonna be Honda's finest after such a long time, i doubt if it will be priced lower than a GTR. at least not where i come from... Singapore.

should be looking at easily USD300k when it arrives here..

oh well, way out of my price range..

true, but you live in an awesome place!

Fastfatdude 01-06-2012 08:29 AM

Not too bad, cept for cost of living..

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1476780)
true, but you live in an awesome place!


MC 01-09-2012 02:06 PM

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....ncept-lead.jpg

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Acura NSX Concept
The dynamically-styled NSX Concept gives an indication of the next great performance vehicle from the Acura brand. Making use of lightweight materials and a mid-mounted V-6 engine, the NSX Concept employs several new technologies for Acura, including application of Acura's innovative new Sport Hybrid SH-AWD® (Super Handling All Wheel Drive™) hybrid system.

Utilizing a unique 2 Electric Motor Drive Unit with a Bilateral Torque Adjustable Control System, the all-new hybrid all-wheel-drive system can instantly generate negative or positive torque to the front wheels during cornering. Acura anticipates the new Sport Hybrid SH-AWD® will deliver handling performance unmatched by previous AWD systems. In addition to the handling benefits of the Sport Hybrid SH-AWD® system, a powerful next-generation VTEC® V-6 engine with direct-injection works in concert with a dual clutch transmission with built-in electric motor to create supercar acceleration while offering outstanding efficiency.

"This Sport Hybrid SH-AWD system will make NSX the ultimate expression of Acura's idea to create synergy between man and machine," said Takanobu Ito, president and CEO of Honda Motor Co., Ltd. "The NSX will make the driver one with the car to enhance dynamic driving abilities without getting in the way."

While most supercars opt for brute force delivered from a large engine, the NSX Concept champions the true racing philosophy of an extremely favorable power-to-weight ratio.
"Like the first NSX, we will again express high performance through engineering efficiency," added Ito, who led the development of Acura's first NSX supercar. "In this new era, even as we focus on the fun to drive spirit of the NSX, I think a supercar must respond positively to environmental responsibilities."

The new Acura supercar, expected to debut in the next three years, will be developed by an engineering team led by Honda R&D Americas, Inc., and manufactured in Ohio, at a yet to be named facility.

FL 4Motion 01-09-2012 02:10 PM

/\ sounds like it's going to be a $150K car. I just hope it has the performance to match that price tag. I just can't see, at this time, all that advanced tech, esp the performance hybrid tech, cost much less than that.

MC 01-09-2012 02:17 PM

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1...ceptdetroi.jpg

MC 01-09-2012 02:19 PM

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/2...ceptdetroi.jpg

MC 01-09-2012 02:23 PM

http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/9...ceptdetroi.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/710...ceptdetroi.jpg

Cmike2780 01-09-2012 02:24 PM

that looks sexy, but the tailight needs to go all the way across like the original. I also wish the incorporated the iconic built-in wing.

Isamu 01-09-2012 03:44 PM

I can't believe it's going to be built in ohio...

azn370z 01-09-2012 04:09 PM

I think the previous nsx concept looked better. But this concept isn't too shabby, it does look fast and a little exotic.

Rooster89 01-09-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1482856)
I can't believe it's going to be built in ohio...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-N1aRS4-cCV...ad+%25283%2529

TerribleONE 01-09-2012 05:34 PM

ohio?? really?

gomer_110 01-09-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1482856)
I can't believe it's going to be built in ohio...

Considering that's where they build most every other Honda it would only make sense.

MC 01-09-2012 05:38 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzaynkoC04k

speedworks 01-09-2012 06:04 PM

Doesn't do much for me

Isamu 01-09-2012 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 1482993)
Considering that's where they build most every other Honda it would only make sense.

while that's true for the USDM market cars, I would have guess that they would be building their new flagship car in the motherland..

ImportConvert 01-10-2012 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MC (Post 1482996)

If the technology is accurately portrayed, it's going to cost far more than the performance it delivers to the street or track warrants.

Isamu 01-10-2012 04:05 AM

so what your saying is you know how much exactly this tech is going to cost? damn, I didn't know you were not only the most awesome person alive, but! you also know everything about technology and cost of said technology... :facepalm:

ImportConvert 01-10-2012 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1483582)
so what your saying is you know how much exactly this tech is going to cost? damn, I didn't know you were not only the most awesome person alive, but! you also know everything about technology and cost of said technology... :facepalm:

Where did I say "exactly"?

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if a Chevy Cruze ($20K) with a hybrid driveline nowhere near as advanced as the car in the video, and with nowhere near as much concern for weight or distribution doubles the price in the form of the $40K Volt, that this NSX is going to be expensive as ****.

The Porsche 918, which uses VERY SIMILAR technology, corroborates this theory. So unless you think that $0.8 Million is going to turn into $100K just because it says "Acura" on the back instead of "Porsche", then be my guest.

I just don't think it's going to be anywhere NEAR affordable when compared to cars offering similar performance and quality/interior/etc.

Rooster89 01-10-2012 05:46 AM

I wonder if building it stateside is going to make it cheaper to sell.

Cmike2780 01-10-2012 08:21 AM

It's not going to be "cheap," but I doubt Honda/Acura plans on building a halo sports car that's going to cost anywhere near the 918 or anywhere near the exotics. It's not that black & white. It's the same reasoning behind the ZR-1 or GT-R. Both cars having greater performance numbers without the fancy badge. The tech won't be cheap, but don't forget Honda has been in the hybrid game for some time now. They will find a way to make the NSX priced in a way that can justify its performance or they will just cancel the program. Don't forget, its focus is going to be more on agility, balance and low curb weight than all out power.

azn370z 01-10-2012 10:45 AM

The rumor is about $100k similar to the original nsx pricing. That price would work for me.

Isamu 01-10-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1483659)
It's not going to be "cheap," but I doubt Honda/Acura plans on building a halo sports car that's going to cost anywhere near the 918 or anywhere near the exotics. It's not that black & white. It's the same reasoning behind the ZR-1 or GT-R. Both cars having greater performance numbers without the fancy badge. The tech won't be cheap, but don't forget Honda has been in the hybrid game for some time now. They will find a way to make the NSX priced in a way that can justify its performance or they will just cancel the program. Don't forget, its focus is going to be more on agility, balance and low curb weight than all out power.

bingo bingo! Honda isn't trying to make an LFA... :bowrofl:

Isamu 01-10-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1483594)
Where did I say "exactly"?

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if a Chevy Cruze ($20K) with a hybrid driveline nowhere near as advanced as the car in the video, and with nowhere near as much concern for weight or distribution doubles the price in the form of the $40K Volt, that this NSX is going to be expensive as ****.

The Porsche 918, which uses VERY SIMILAR technology, corroborates this theory. So unless you think that $0.8 Million is going to turn into $100K just because it says "Acura" on the back instead of "Porsche", then be my guest.

I just don't think it's going to be anywhere NEAR affordable when compared to cars offering similar performance and quality/interior/etc.

dude. :facepalm: Im not saying it won't be expensive, but it won't be anywhere NEAR teh price of the 918... Cmike laid it out pretty much spot on

theDreamer 01-10-2012 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1483659)
It's not going to be "cheap," but I doubt Honda/Acura plans on building a halo sports car that's going to cost anywhere near the 918 or anywhere near the exotics. It's not that black & white. It's the same reasoning behind the ZR-1 or GT-R. Both cars having greater performance numbers without the fancy badge. The tech won't be cheap, but don't forget Honda has been in the hybrid game for some time now. They will find a way to make the NSX priced in a way that can justify its performance or they will just cancel the program. Don't forget, its focus is going to be more on agility, balance and low curb weight than all out power.

Also, they have from now till 3 years to official release the car which is a lot of time in technology time. The price of hybrid tech could go from millions to pennies in that time period.


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