370Z vs facelifted Genesis Coupe 2012 3.8

gaveup

Can you show me 1 genesis 2.0T with a ported turbo that ran better? I've been on gencoupe quite a bit and have not seen many.

I don't recall saying YOU made a mistake by buying your car. Can you point out to me where I did?

And yes, those videos weren't 1/4 mile times, but I would say a 1/4 mile is a good way to judge power. Where as on a track, the driver matter more or at least equal to the performance of a car. I can pull up videos of a pro driver in a civic beating "sports" cars. Does that instantly make the civic a better car?

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cossie1600

Here is one with 287 vs 332 HP



287 had better tires and was driven way harder, it was still slower. It's still hard to beat HP.....

I doubt the Z06 had 700HP

Maila87

1/4 time is not about power. It is more about weight/power ratio (which is for MY11 Gen Coupe TERRIBLE in comparison to Z34). But what is more important, how easily it can transform that power to speed. Which is also problem of Hyundai if I compare old Tiburon (in Europe just Coupe) in 2.0i and GEN Coupe 2.0T there is no improvement in 0-62mph times! And we talk about a lot weaker NA 2.0 and FWD car made by Hyundai.

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senseiturtle

I think there needs to be a little more clarification.

1/4 mile TRAP SPEED is more reflective of car power.
1/4 mile E.T. is a combination of power, grip, driver.

One thing to keep in mind... you can always add power to a car, just dump money into the engine bay. You cannot, however, alter things like chassis construction / shape / weight placement, etc without virtually destroying the car. Once you have THAT kind of money to seriously alter the nature of the car, this entire conversation is moot.

It's easy to pick up a few lateral tenths in G-forces with tires, sway, suspension work, etc... but it's much easier to reach very high levels of cornering with a car built as a sports car to begin with. There's a reason why GT2 cars are all porsches / corvettes, etc.

KillerBee370

I don't think either car is a drag car necessarily. I go to the track (road course). In fact I just went last weekend and I didn't see one Genesis coupe there (well I did but it was my friends and he wasn't running).

My car's heavily modded too, outruns other Z's and most likely any Genesis on track, I can mash it around town all day long and I don't have any oil temp issues on or off track and blah blah blah... so?

The bottom line is that this is a Z forum. A car with a history (not to mention the best selling sport car in the US). The Genesis is really the FIRST worthy car that Hyundai has put out. I personally like the car but I wouldn't take it over a Z. Noway.

Skeeterbop

I bolded the parts that echo my feelings on this whole argument.

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KillerBee370

Fixed!

UNKNOWN_370

As a fan of the gen. I wanted to buy one pretty bad. I love underdogs!!! But when I drove it and did the research on the gen, the technology was doing a disservice to the gen rather than adding power. Its too restrictive and no one has been able to fully hack that ecu. The engine is no EVO engine even though they are based off the same thing. The 2.0 is weak. I'll take the pepsi challenge on a modded 2.0 anyday. And just so nguyen knows. 13.3 are manual numbers. (Which for a stock anything its good numbers)13.1 is stock for autos. Come see autos. With my K&N filters alone with mishimito intake hoses I'm seeing 13 flat. Once I'm FI'd I'm expecting low 11's. Gencoupe owners of the 2.0 WON'T MAKE THAT with this current motor. With an ECU tune on the Z revving it to 8000rpm. The 3.8 wouldn't have a chance either.

A modded gencoupe 2.0 beating a mostly stock or modded Z is like having a Nun in a whorehouse... in other words, IT AIN'T HAPPENING.

6MT

Off topic completely, but..... when I first glanced at the title of this thread, I thought it said "facelifted Genitals".

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Shamu

The comparison of Genesis coupe to 370z is like comparing Mustang v6 to 370z. The Gen Coupe is much bigger car. Gen Coupe Wheelbase is over 10 inches longer, Gen Coupe is over a foot longer, it is couple inches taller, it weighs more, it's wider, it's power to weight ratio is still far inferior to 370z, it has far less rigid chassis than z34 and suspension is no where close to capability of a Z34.

New facelift doesn't make ugly Hyundai styling any better to my eyes. It still looks like a wannabe sports GT car headed for bag of misfit toys. Nice car for soccer mom who is looking to spice up her image and not spend too much money doing so.

Test of time will be best indicator. Will Genesis Coupes from this decade be held onto by enthusiasts and restored to like new condition 20 years from now or will they head to crushers like all other Hyundais? I'm betting on crusher for that face lifted abomination.

mantella87

I beat a Gen Coupe in Forza with a 370 and that's how I decided which car to buy.

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