370Z vs facelifted Genesis Coupe 2012 3.8

m4a1mustang · 11-23-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Masa

It doesn't rev that high. Coming from Honda (S2K/Si), our 7500rpm limit is laughable compared to 8800rpm (or higher if you get Hondata tune).

In other words, VTAK y0!

Yeah, those things rev! Makes me miss my little iVtAk commuter!

Hell even my lowly 5.0h revs to 7,500 with my tune.

On the topic of the Genesis Coupe: I don't think we have any test data out for the refresh yet so we should reserve judgement. It does look a little odd with the new face, but we'll see how the new engine revisions and any suspension changes turn out before we know exactly how it will compete against the Z.

With 350hp/300lb-ft, though, it's close enough to be a driver's race in a 1/4 mile drag. Put a average-mediocre Z driver against an average-good Genesis driver and it will probably be close!

Red__Zed · 11-23-2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Masa

It doesn't rev that high. Coming from Honda (S2K/Si), our 7500rpm limit is laughable compared to 8800rpm (or higher if you get Hondata tune).

In other words, VTAK y0!

, but...

11.5k or bust

Strangler · 11-23-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Masa

It doesn't rev that high. Coming from Honda (S2K/Si), our 7500rpm limit is laughable compared to 8800rpm (or higher if you get Hondata tune).

In other words, VTAK y0!

What are the differences between high rev and low rev? How does it affect the car's performance? I know diesel car has low rev and the RX-8 has the highest rev for rotary engine cars.

Someone told me a long time ago that they like the low rev because you get to max speed faster than high rev.

kenchan · 11-23-2011, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Maila87

So, for next model year will be Z less powerfull in comparison. Still faster and better. But 350 BHP will be standard for 3.8 engine in Genesis Coupe. And yes, no high revving engine like that one in our beloved cars.

And I don't care.

I'm not a fan of their facelift. Was better before. They needed to fix the privacy glass on the rear side glass.

toxik · 11-23-2011, 09:11 AM

If you're in the market for a G37, I think the Gen coupe would be the better choice. As far as the 370z, it's still a sleek looking 2 seater sports car, and the Gen coupe isn't. The Gen will always be a more practical every-day car, it just depends what you're looking for in a car.

Skeeterbop · 11-23-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by toxik

If you're in the market for a G37, I think the Gen coupe would be the better choice. As far as the 370z, it's still a sleek looking 2 seater sports car, and the Gen coupe isn't. The Gen will always be a more practical every-day car, it just depends what you're looking for in a car.

Well said

m4a1mustang · 11-23-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by toxik

If you're in the market for a G37, I think the Gen coupe would be the better choice. As far as the 370z, it's still a sleek looking 2 seater sports car, and the Gen coupe isn't. The Gen will always be a more practical every-day car, it just depends what you're looking for in a car.

toxik · 11-23-2011, 09:52 AM

The genesis is a mish mash of a bunch of cars, the Sedan looks like a BMW from the rear and a benz from the front. The pre-facelift Gen coupe did resemble the G a lot, especially on the street, not in a still photo. Don't forget the new gen G37 is coming out soon, so you never know, they still might look alike again.

TypeOne · 11-23-2011, 09:56 AM

I'm actually excited about the new Gen Coupe. I hope its way better than the first one... not saying it's going to happen, but you never know, it actually might not be that bad.

I like the smaller, Veloster very much... it's a neat little hatchback that offers good value. Another thing that I'm starting to like about Hyundai is the fact that they aren't scared to put power in any of their cars. It was mentioned the Veloster will be offered with the 2.0T option that the Gen coupe has. 270hp in one of those and it's going to be a value that not many cars in the class can keep up with.

The new Civic Si is a terrible "upgrade" for the 2012 year. I hope Honda get's their head in the game and brings back some of the features that made the older models so special.

m4a1mustang · 11-23-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TypeOne

I'm actually excited about the new Gen Coupe. I hope its way better than the first one... not saying it's going to happen, but you never know, it actually might not be that bad.

I like the smaller, Veloster very much... it's a neat little hatchback that offers good value. Another thing that I'm starting to like about Hyundai is the fact that they aren't scared to put power in any of their cars. It was mentioned the Veloster will be offered with the 2.0T option that the Gen coupe has. 270hp in one of those and it's going to be a value that not many cars in the class can keep up with.

The new Civic Si is a terrible "upgrade" for the 2012 year. I hope Honda get's their head in the game and brings back some of the features that made the older models so special.

I'm excited about the new G, too. I really liked the 1st one. Don't care for the current gen. I have high hopes for the 3rd, though.

Honda... they are done for me. They've fallen into a rut. All of their cars suck from an enthusiast's standpoint.

Maila87 · 11-23-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeOne

I'm actually excited about the new Gen Coupe. I hope its way better than the first one... not saying it's going to happen, but you never know, it actually might not be that bad.

I like the smaller, Veloster very much... it's a neat little hatchback that offers good value. Another thing that I'm starting to like about Hyundai is the fact that they aren't scared to put power in any of their cars. It was mentioned the Veloster will be offered with the 2.0T option that the Gen coupe has. 270hp in one of those and it's going to be a value that not many cars in the class can keep up with.

The new Civic Si is a terrible "upgrade" for the 2012 year. I hope Honda get's their head in the game and brings back some of the features that made the older models so special.

If you mean Veloster outside. It is really gorgeous car for that bargain. But the ride quality is worse (and many times described in Car magazines) than Golf IV (in US you know it as Rabbit, I guess). So it is just nice car, with poor performance. The Gen Coupe is for me really heavy and slow car. But I mean before Facelift. 3.8 which can pumps out just enough power to 240 km/h is not really weak. My 2.0TFSI OOOO TT mk2 with 200hp had 245 km/h (one time 260+ on GPS). Also 6.4s is similar to my old Audi.

Yes, I use my Z as DD and many times I missed rear seats. But love the design and performance! BTW: Gen Coupe comes with 19's as standard! Too big for me

Parkerman · 11-23-2011, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by toxik

The genesis is a mish mash of a bunch of cars, the Sedan looks like a BMW from the rear and a benz from the front. The pre-facelift Gen coupe did resemble the G a lot, especially on the street, not in a still photo. Don't forget the new gen G37 is coming out soon, so you never know, they still might look alike again.

Lets hope the G37 doesn't go catfish style.

m4a1mustang · 11-23-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Parkerman

Lets hope the G37 doesn't go catfish style.

The Z already did.

Stillen even makes whiskers for it.

Red__Zed · 11-23-2011, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The Z already did.

Stillen even makes whiskers for it.

google image search
"370z catfish"
bottom middle of pg4= wtf mate?

waaaasabi · 11-23-2011, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The Z already did.

Stillen even makes whiskers for it.

The face lifted Gen Coupe is more of this:

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TypeOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 2,682 Drives: BSM 370 Rep Power: 1851	I'm actually excited about the new Gen Coupe. I hope its way better than the first one... not saying it's going to happen, but you never know, it actually might not be that bad. I like the smaller, Veloster very much... it's a neat little hatchback that offers good value. Another thing that I'm starting to like about Hyundai is the fact that they aren't scared to put power in any of their cars. It was mentioned the Veloster will be offered with the 2.0T option that the Gen coupe has. 270hp in one of those and it's going to be a value that not many cars in the class can keep up with. The new Civic Si is a terrible "upgrade" for the 2012 year. I hope Honda get's their head in the game and brings back some of the features that made the older models so special.