I don't understand.

All you have read about the 2013 GT500 and Mustang is from a sneak preview, everything it says in the article is only plan numbers, no actual test drive nor actual test had been done.

You saw the numbers, then you conclude this is a better car, you don't even know how its actual driving experience is like.

We don't know the reliability of the 2013 model, we don't know how does it handle the road and we know nothing but the numbers.

Yes, it does make more horses than the Z, but remember its engine is supercharged, the VQ is a N/A. Honestly, I'd be more appreciate the later since it is much more difficult to squeeze more horses from a N/A.

I think it's not only the American market, ALL markets are looking for more with less money, right?

You pay for what you get, will you be confident to buy something that says 400hp with a price tag of $30k??

Back to the 2013 models, there's this concern I have in mind. With the shape of the Mustang, quite a boxy shape, aerodynamically, what do you think about the stability of the ride when it's really going at 200mph??

How many cars on the market nowadays are capable to do 200mph?? And how much do they cost??

I have nothing against the Mustang or Ford, in fact, I think they are doing much better than the other two US car makers.

However, only had read a brief preview, I think it is too early to make such conclusion saying one is better than the other.

just my $0.02

cheers

Here ya go bud... 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 Specs and First Ride- 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 Release ? RoadandTrack.com

I can only speak to the GT and a good bit less speed, but the "boxy" Mustangs definitely are stable at big speeds.

They've done a lot of aero work to the '13 GT500 so I'm sure it will be fine at that speed. Just because a shape is "boxy" doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be unstable under heavy aero loads.

Comparing the '13 GT500 to a current Z doesn't make much sense, but considering how the Z and 5.0 perform relative to one another, the GT500 will blow both miles out of the water.

Not to veer too far off topic, but it seems to me that Korean automakers are now taking the risks that the Japanese manufacturers used to. Look at Kia and Hyundai. They're directly competing (although largely through imitation), but they are daring other companies with their warranties, their pricing, and their on-paper performance. Isn't that what Honda and Toyota did to become huge?

Yep. The Korean crew is taking a page from the Japanese tactics from the 80s

this has always been my biggest beef with Nissan, other than the flagship, all they do is worthless little megar power increases just to barely stay competitive. Table scraps, its ******* pathetic...

Honeslty i dont know where the Z is really going to go from here

A) Hybrid v6- no thanks for me
B)its already a 3.7...how big do they really plan on making the V6 at this point?? the flagship is 3.8 anything larger than that is small block v8...nissan do a v8 Z...that would cool, that would be the day
C) Turbo Z---that will hike the price way out of the current demograph

If i had to make a prediction....this is going to be the last Z for a long time

Nissan / Infiniti have been consistently increasing market share for the past decade. Nissan has three manufacturing plants in the USA, and one of the most highly-regarded design centers in the world located in California.

No offense, but I deleted the comments about moar powah, etc since they really don't make any sense. Low sales numbers for the Z reflect the economy, not the vehicle. It is regarded by all automotive writers as the best bang-for-the-buck sports car available.

If you want more power, the engine is very well-suited to mods and forced induction. I love the fact that I almost never see another 370Z on the road around here. If they stopped building them tomorrow I would not shed one tear.

ibtl

Everyone here might find this article as an interesting read: Nissan Z - 2013 Nissan Z - Future Sports Cars from Nissan at RoadandTrack.com




and hello, I recently bought a 370Z Nismo and I've been lurking around reading up on what I can. Thought I would say hi and join the community

really why?? I think this is a great discussion amongst guys who love nissan(me) who are just frustrated that nissan isnt thriving like it needs to

Because this is the internet. At some point, this "discussion" will deteriorate into an acrimonious argument that will inevitably be closed. You know, bad feelings etc.. Happens all the time when someone brings up a thread topic full of opinions.:twocents:



ibtl

The most truthful thing said in the thread.

Really, the Infiniti brand was made to sell expensive Nissans to the US, because the US tends to be very brand conscious.

The Z is basically a G that's lighter and harsher, and as long as the two share so many parts, the Z acts as an affordable halo car for the company. I doubt they make money on the car, but I know they sell a ton of Gs.

more affordable or not, i like the 370z more than the g37 coupe. if their prices were switched around, i would still get the 370z before the g37 coupe. Test drove a g37 coupe 2 weeks ago with a friend of mine that was considering one, he ended up getting a subaru wrx instead.

The G is more practical and luxurious than the Z, although I also value the Z more.

But for many people, the necessities of a back seat, higher seating position, and possibly AWD might push them toward the G instead.

:iagree: That's why it sells more than the Z.