The horsepower race has gone nuclear: 2013 GT500

Lemers · 06-13-2012, 09:22 AM

Sway bars, strut tower braces, and I thought you do something else to improve handling.

m4a1mustang · 06-13-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

Sway bars, strut tower braces, and I thought you do something else to improve handling.

GT500 has big sway bars, strut tower brace, etc. The Bilstein electronic dampers are one of the main reasons you get the SVTPP option to begin with.

If I bought a '13 GT500 there really isn't anything I'd be changing. I'd keep it unmolested.

If I bought a '11 or '12 on the other hand I would consider doing a few things.

shadoquad · 06-13-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

GT500 has big sway bars, strut tower brace, etc. The Bilstein electronic dampers are one of the main reasons you get the SVTPP option to begin with.

If I bought a '13 GT500 there really isn't anything I'd be changing. I'd keep it unmolested.

If I bought a '11 or '12 on the other hand I would consider doing a few things.

skeptical shado is skeptical, although I have no doubt that you wouldn't mod the car.

m4a1mustang · 06-13-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

skeptical shado is skeptical, although I have no doubt that you wouldn't mod the car.

If I had a '11 or '12 GT500 I can tell you the first thing I'd do is take it to Excessive (my Mustang shop) and have them swap the pulley and re-tune. 550hp is not enough. 650 is pretty good, though.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-13-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

If I had a '11 or '12 GT500 I can tell you the first thing I'd do is take it to Excessive (my Mustang shop) and have them swap the pulley and re-tune. 550hp is not enough. 650 is pretty good, though.

1k hp or

Rone · 06-13-2012, 10:11 AM

I don't know if anyone posted this link, but I found it to be and interesting read.

2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs. 2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Comparison Test

Lemers · 06-13-2012, 10:21 AM

I already posted that

m4a1mustang · 06-13-2012, 10:24 AM

I'd like to see the two cars on a real track with a professional driver ala the ZL1/Boss test.

Definitely think the GT500 would fare much better with more rubber. The ZL1 has so much more contact patch. Ford did get their LC right, though, because in the right hands the '13 is pretty sick in the 1/4 mile.

Shamu · 06-13-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'd like to see the two cars on a real track with a professional driver ala the ZL1/Boss test.

Definitely think the GT500 would fare much better with more rubber. The ZL1 has so much more contact patch. Ford did get their LC right, though, because in the right hands the '13 is pretty sick in the 1/4 mile.

However as a daily driver GTR would smack this new GT500 off the line in most street scenarios. Not saying racing but you know fun little sprints off the line on wide open roads with no traffic. I have to laugh as I used to pull up next to big hot GT500s at stop lights in my AWD Mazdaspeed 6 gt and drop the clutch right at torque sweet spot at 2700 rpm and my car would jump off line with no wheel spin. gT500 drivers would be squealing tires behind me and not catch me until middle of second gear. Then they would want to do stupid stuff to prove their cars were faster.

These over 500 hp Mustangs are just stupid. I guess if you live for Drag racing a at the track it would be ok? ....but Really? 600 + hp in piece o crap mustang? I know it's been done for years but why not focus on making the car handle? Pull weight out etc.

ford is really disappointing me.

m4a1mustang · 06-13-2012, 11:23 AM

Street racing discussion is not allowed.

nuTinmuch · 06-13-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

However as a daily driver GTR would smack this new GT500 off the line in most street scenarios. Not saying racing but you know fun little sprints off the line on wide open roads with no traffic. I have to laugh as I used to pull up next to big hot GT500s at stop lights in my AWD Mazdaspeed 6 gt and drop the clutch right at torque sweet spot at 2700 rpm and my car would jump off line with no wheel spin. gT500 drivers would be squealing tires behind me and not catch me until middle of second gear. Then they would want to do stupid stuff to prove their cars were faster.

These over 500 hp Mustangs are just stupid. I guess if you live for Drag racing a at the track it would be ok? ....but Really? 600 + hp in piece o crap mustang? I know it's been done for years but why not focus on making the car handle? Pull weight out etc.

ford is really disappointing me.

Palm to face.

Nikkolai · 06-13-2012, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

These over 500 hp Mustangs are just stupid. I guess if you live for Drag racing a at the track it would be ok? ....but Really? 600 + hp in piece o crap mustang? I know it's been done for years but why not focus on making the car handle? Pull weight out etc.

ford is really disappointing me.

See 2011 Mustang 5.0, then Boss 302, and especially Boss 302 Laguna Seca. Lap times at Laguna Seca will show proof of said handling.

Iceagetlc · 06-13-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu

However as a daily driver GTR would smack this new GT500 off the line in most street scenarios. Not saying racing but you know fun little sprints off the line on wide open roads with no traffic. I have to laugh as I used to pull up next to big hot GT500s at stop lights in my AWD Mazdaspeed 6 gt and drop the clutch right at torque sweet spot at 2700 rpm and my car would jump off line with no wheel spin. gT500 drivers would be squealing tires behind me and not catch me until middle of second gear. Then they would want to do stupid stuff to prove their cars were faster.

These over 500 hp Mustangs are just stupid. I guess if you live for Drag racing a at the track it would be ok? ....but Really? 600 + hp in piece o crap mustang? I know it's been done for years but why not focus on making the car handle? Pull weight out etc.

ford is really disappointing me.

Let's do a quick off the line sprint just for fun

As for the story, I call BS. I've never seen a streetable Mazda 6. Did you detune it? How would you even register it?

Lemers · 06-13-2012, 07:36 PM

Maybe he was racing against people who didn't know they were racing. I mean how many GT500 drivers would exspect to be challenged by a Mazda 6?

shadoquad · 06-13-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

Maybe he was racing against people who didn't know they were racing. I mean how many GT500 drivers would exspect to be challenged by a Mazda 6?

AWD turbo 4 always beats supercharged v8!

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Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Maybe he was racing against people who didn't know they were racing. I mean how many GT500 drivers would exspect to be challenged by a Mazda 6? __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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Rone Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 326 Drives: PW Sport/Touring 6MT Rep Power: 14	I don't know if anyone posted this link, but I found it to be and interesting read. 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs. 2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Comparison Test

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