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shadoquad 11-16-2011 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1409868)
See now that's the problem (and why ford almost stopped making the mustang several times). No matter what car ford puts on the road people will say its still a mustang.

Ford could built a 2 seat, midengined, twin turboed, AWD, 800 HP, "true sports car"; but as soon as the galloping pony goes on the car someones gonna say "Meh, it's still a mustang".

All I know is that Meh mustang is kicking the crap out of my Z for equal or less money.

But the reason Ford produced crappy Mustangs for years on end is because the name would sell, so they could throw out complete and utter crap, and people would still scoop it up because "meh it's a mustang".

It's a double edged sword.

Also, there will always be a faster car. If you go buy a Mustang now, there will be a faster car for decent money past that. Keeping up with the performance Joneses is a zero sum game.

Red__Zed 11-16-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1409882)
People say "meh, it's just a Mustang" much like many people say, "meh, it's just a NISSAN." At the end of the day it really doesn't matter what they think.

Agreed. It doesn't matter what you drive, people will find a way to hate. If you let it bother you, you'll never be happy.

theDreamer 11-16-2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1409901)
Agreed. It doesn't matter what you drive, people will find a way to hate. If you let it bother you, you'll never be happy.

Meh...it is just a Ferrari

Red__Zed 11-16-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1409908)
Meh...it is just a Ferrari


I have actually heard "meh, it's not an Enzo" at a show before.

shadoquad 11-16-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1409908)
Meh...it is just a Ferrari

You couldn't afford it, pal.

theDreamer 11-16-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1409916)
I have actually heard "meh, it's not an Enzo" at a show before.

Well, maybe the guy should have bought an Enzo.

Lemers 11-16-2011 09:53 AM

I know but at least come up with something. I rather hear things like it has a solid rear axle, or why the interior is cheap (still waiting on that one), or it weighs too much. Those are reasons that can be discussed. Its just a mustang just shows a prejudice against it and you can't even debate the car with the person.

I drive a Z and I love it, it has problems (a lot have been brought up on this site). But I like the mustang too. When it comes to my money I want to keep as open a mind that I can so I can maximize my investment and fulfill the need/want I my life.

Red__Zed 11-16-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1409920)
Well, maybe the guy should have bought an Enzo.

Obviously

theDreamer 11-16-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1409925)
I know but at least come up with something. I rather hear things like it has a solid rear axle, or why the interior is cheap (still waiting on that one), or it weighs too much. Those are reasons that can be discussed. Its just a mustang just shows a prejudice against it and you can't even debate the car with the person.

I drive a Z and I love it, it has problems (a lot have been brought up on this site). But I like the mustang too. When it comes to my money I want to keep as open a mind that I can so I can maximize my investment and fulfill the need/want I my life.

That is the thing, 'Meh it is just a Mustang' is not me putting down the Mustang, I am putting down the GT500.
I am saying the GT500 at the end of the day is nothing more than a Mustang with 'nicer or better performance parts.' It is not worth the extra money to buy a GT500 in my opinion because 'it is just a Mustang.'

m4a1mustang 11-16-2011 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1409929)
That is the thing, 'Meh it is just a Mustang' is not me putting down the Mustang, I am putting down the GT500.
I am saying the GT500 at the end of the day is nothing more than a Mustang with 'nicer or better performance parts.' It is not worth the extra money to buy a GT500 in my opinion because 'it is just a Mustang.'

But it is the first 200 mph Mustang, which is incredible.

theDreamer 11-16-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1409942)
But it is the first 200 mph Mustang, which is incredible.

Which is nice, but where will I use it?
If you say track, then I will say buy a Boss 302 then if you want a track Mustang. It is a nice feature and good to see progress with the car, but honestly I would be taking a 5.0 or Boss 302 before I even look at a GT500.

Red__Zed 11-16-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1409929)
That is the thing, 'Meh it is just a Mustang' is not me putting down the Mustang, I am putting down the GT500.
I am saying the GT500 at the end of the day is nothing more than a Mustang with 'nicer or better performance parts.' It is not worth the extra money to buy a GT500 in my opinion because 'it is just a Mustang.'

Yep, just human nature to think that way. Part of the reason Nissan doesn't bring over the regular skyline

Lemers 11-16-2011 10:04 AM

A mustang that can go 200 mph. Thats why they call it a trim level Noboby ever said it wasnt a mustang

The GT500 is not to the mustang GT as the NISMO is to the 370z. You can't take a GT and "built" it to a GT500 without going way over the cost of buying a new GT500.

Isamu 11-16-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1409916)
I have actually heard "meh, it's not an Enzo" at a show before.

:bowrofl: I heard something similiar... meh, it's just a gallardo.. :roflpuke2:

m4a1mustang 11-16-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 1409947)
Which is nice, but where will I use it?
If you say track, then I will say buy a Boss 302 then if you want a track Mustang. It is a nice feature and good to see progress with the car, but honestly I would be taking a 5.0 or Boss 302 before I even look at a GT500.

Does that really even matter?


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