The horsepower race has gone nuclear: 2013 GT500

shadoquad · 11-15-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You can't say that, because the ZL1 runs out of steam at 184 mph.

Really?! I hadn't actually heard that before.

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That's interesting. *scratches chin pensively*

Lemers · 11-15-2011, 05:45 PM

I like the rear lights. I think ford needs to scrap the key and go with a Nissan key and push button start. fords got it in lower end cars.

Over all the 2012 and 2013 look the same for the GT500. I think the 5.0/boss/base now look too close to the GT500. Originally the complaint from the old STV owners was that there was little to differentiate the GT from the STV.

Who needs 200 mph? Well I guess you could ask who needs 155 mph?

Alchemy · 11-15-2011, 05:46 PM

I was just reading about the GT500 today. HOLY $#!t!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It looks beast I must say. I also saw the ZL1. They say the Camaro is gonna be about 55k I think. WOW, 55k for a Camaro, crazy. I didnt see pricing for the GT500, was it announced? Im sure it will be comparable to the Camaro. Big power in those boys, they are gonna be sick.

shadoquad · 11-15-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

I was just reading about the GT500 today. HOLY $#!t!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It looks beast I must say. I also saw the ZL1. They say the Camaro is gonna be about 55k I think. WOW, 55k for a Camaro, crazy. I didnt see pricing for the GT500, was it announced? Im sure it will be comparable to the Camaro. Big power in those boys, they are gonna be sick.

I would never have thought a decade ago that anyone would ever spend 50k on a Mustang or Camaro, but even more shocking to me is that people would spend 120k on a Corvette.

It's very funny to me, but I can understand the cost from a performance standpoint.

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2011, 05:54 PM

Also keep in mind that $50k today is not the same as $50k ten years ago.

shadoquad · 11-15-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Also keep in mind that $50k today is not the same as $50k ten years ago.

Troof!

Lemers · 11-15-2011, 05:59 PM

How about $35k on a GT and $22k on a V6? They've all gone up.

Cmike2780 · 11-15-2011, 06:33 PM

$50k is still a lot even if you take inflation into account. The interesting part is that these cars are still a pretty good bargain for what you get.

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2011, 06:35 PM

Real inflation or officially recorded Keynesian inflation?

KaienZ34 · 11-15-2011, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

Ok so what size and width wheels and tires or we looking at for the GT500?

Hey i'm really wanting to know, not being a azz.

Lemers · 11-15-2011, 07:16 PM

Not sure if this is a option or standard.

Second-generation Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperCar tires mounted on 19-inch front and 20-inch rear forged aluminum wheels.

b1adesofcha0s · 11-15-2011, 08:10 PM

Looks like a beast!

Skeeterbop · 11-15-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 370z4Steve

perhaps not at least if you track it a lot it makes little difference but the suspension setup on the ZL1 beats it on track and off track.

Properly setup, i doubt there will be much difference on the track between the two. Ford has had quite a long time to perfect their live axle and on a nice smooth track is where it will be able to really shine. On the street is a different story though and I would give the edge to the Camaro.

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2011, 08:27 PM

People make too big of a deal out of the live axle setup. There is no difference in behavior on the street with my 5.0s rear suspension compared to my 370Z. I think the live axle just gets a bad reputation because for a while they were really, really bad. But now with the new ones people are having a hard time coming to grips with the fact they are actually very good when done right -- on the street or the track.

Skeeterbop · 11-15-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

People make too big of a deal out of the live axle setup. There is no difference in behavior on the street with my 5.0s rear suspension compared to my 370Z. I think the live axle just gets a bad reputation because for a while they were really, really bad. But now with the new ones people are having a hard time coming to grips with the fact they are actually very good when done right -- on the street or the track.

True, having read a few books on suspension design, a live axle can be made to handle just as well as an independent suspension. In fact, in some aspects the Solid axle is actually much better than any independent suspension.

11-15-2011, 05:45 PM	#92 (permalink)
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Alchemy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Age: 45 Posts: 4,855 Drives: to acquire tickets Rep Power: 3524	I was just reading about the GT500 today. HOLY $#!t!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It looks beast I must say. I also saw the ZL1. They say the Camaro is gonna be about 55k I think. WOW, 55k for a Camaro, crazy. I didnt see pricing for the GT500, was it announced? Im sure it will be comparable to the Camaro. Big power in those boys, they are gonna be sick. __________________ Ryan 314WHP \| 260LB-FT \| STILLEN \| KONI \| SWIFT \| STOPTECH \| Z1 \| PROJECT MU \| CNT \| UPREV \| FORGESTAR \| BRIDGESTONE \| PWJDM \| ENEOS \| MOTUL

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11-15-2011, 05:59 PM	#97 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	How about $35k on a GT and $22k on a V6? They've all gone up. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	$50k is still a lot even if you take inflation into account. The interesting part is that these cars are still a pretty good bargain for what you get. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

11-15-2011, 06:35 PM	#99 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Real inflation or officially recorded Keynesian inflation? __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

11-15-2011, 07:16 PM	#101 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Not sure if this is a option or standard. Second-generation Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperCar tires mounted on 19-inch front and 20-inch rear forged aluminum wheels. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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11-15-2011, 08:27 PM	#104 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	People make too big of a deal out of the live axle setup. There is no difference in behavior on the street with my 5.0s rear suspension compared to my 370Z. I think the live axle just gets a bad reputation because for a while they were really, really bad. But now with the new ones people are having a hard time coming to grips with the fact they are actually very good when done right -- on the street or the track. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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