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Lemers 06-13-2012 09:22 AM

Sway bars, strut tower braces, and I thought you do something else to improve handling.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2012 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1769528)
Sway bars, strut tower braces, and I thought you do something else to improve handling.

GT500 has big sway bars, strut tower brace, etc. The Bilstein electronic dampers are one of the main reasons you get the SVTPP option to begin with.

If I bought a '13 GT500 there really isn't anything I'd be changing. I'd keep it unmolested.

If I bought a '11 or '12 on the other hand I would consider doing a few things.

shadoquad 06-13-2012 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1769538)
GT500 has big sway bars, strut tower brace, etc. The Bilstein electronic dampers are one of the main reasons you get the SVTPP option to begin with.

If I bought a '13 GT500 there really isn't anything I'd be changing. I'd keep it unmolested.

If I bought a '11 or '12 on the other hand I would consider doing a few things.

skeptical shado is skeptical, although I have no doubt that you wouldn't mod the car.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2012 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1769545)
skeptical shado is skeptical, although I have no doubt that you wouldn't mod the car.

If I had a '11 or '12 GT500 I can tell you the first thing I'd do is take it to Excessive (my Mustang shop) and have them swap the pulley and re-tune. 550hp is not enough. 650 is pretty good, though. :icon17:

b1adesofcha0s 06-13-2012 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1769552)
If I had a '11 or '12 GT500 I can tell you the first thing I'd do is take it to Excessive (my Mustang shop) and have them swap the pulley and re-tune. 550hp is not enough. 650 is pretty good, though. :icon17:

1k hp or :gtfo2: :icon17:

Rone 06-13-2012 10:11 AM

I don't know if anyone posted this link, but I found it to be and interesting read.

2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 vs. 2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Comparison Test

Lemers 06-13-2012 10:21 AM

I already posted that

m4a1mustang 06-13-2012 10:24 AM

I'd like to see the two cars on a real track with a professional driver ala the ZL1/Boss test.

Definitely think the GT500 would fare much better with more rubber. The ZL1 has so much more contact patch. Ford did get their LC right, though, because in the right hands the '13 is pretty sick in the 1/4 mile.

Shamu 06-13-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1769687)
I'd like to see the two cars on a real track with a professional driver ala the ZL1/Boss test.

Definitely think the GT500 would fare much better with more rubber. The ZL1 has so much more contact patch. Ford did get their LC right, though, because in the right hands the '13 is pretty sick in the 1/4 mile.

However as a daily driver GTR would smack this new GT500 off the line in most street scenarios. Not saying racing but you know fun little sprints off the line on wide open roads with no traffic. I have to laugh as I used to pull up next to big hot GT500s at stop lights in my AWD Mazdaspeed 6 gt and drop the clutch right at torque sweet spot at 2700 rpm and my car would jump off line with no wheel spin. gT500 drivers would be squealing tires behind me and not catch me until middle of second gear. Then they would want to do stupid stuff to prove their cars were faster.

These over 500 hp Mustangs are just stupid. I guess if you live for Drag racing a at the track it would be ok? ....but Really? 600 + hp in piece o crap mustang? I know it's been done for years but why not focus on making the car handle? Pull weight out etc.

ford is really disappointing me.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2012 11:23 AM

:rolleyes:

Street racing discussion is not allowed.

nuTinmuch 06-13-2012 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1769762)
However as a daily driver GTR would smack this new GT500 off the line in most street scenarios. Not saying racing but you know fun little sprints off the line on wide open roads with no traffic. I have to laugh as I used to pull up next to big hot GT500s at stop lights in my AWD Mazdaspeed 6 gt and drop the clutch right at torque sweet spot at 2700 rpm and my car would jump off line with no wheel spin. gT500 drivers would be squealing tires behind me and not catch me until middle of second gear. Then they would want to do stupid stuff to prove their cars were faster.

These over 500 hp Mustangs are just stupid. I guess if you live for Drag racing a at the track it would be ok? ....but Really? 600 + hp in piece o crap mustang? I know it's been done for years but why not focus on making the car handle? Pull weight out etc.

ford is really disappointing me.

Palm to face.

Nikkolai 06-13-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1769762)
These over 500 hp Mustangs are just stupid. I guess if you live for Drag racing a at the track it would be ok? ....but Really? 600 + hp in piece o crap mustang? I know it's been done for years but why not focus on making the car handle? Pull weight out etc.

ford is really disappointing me.

See 2011 Mustang 5.0, then Boss 302, and especially Boss 302 Laguna Seca. Lap times at Laguna Seca will show proof of said handling.

Iceagetlc 06-13-2012 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1769762)
However as a daily driver GTR would smack this new GT500 off the line in most street scenarios. Not saying racing but you know fun little sprints off the line on wide open roads with no traffic. I have to laugh as I used to pull up next to big hot GT500s at stop lights in my AWD Mazdaspeed 6 gt and drop the clutch right at torque sweet spot at 2700 rpm and my car would jump off line with no wheel spin. gT500 drivers would be squealing tires behind me and not catch me until middle of second gear. Then they would want to do stupid stuff to prove their cars were faster.

These over 500 hp Mustangs are just stupid. I guess if you live for Drag racing a at the track it would be ok? ....but Really? 600 + hp in piece o crap mustang? I know it's been done for years but why not focus on making the car handle? Pull weight out etc.

ford is really disappointing me.

Let's do a quick off the line sprint just for fun :)

As for the story, I call BS. I've never seen a streetable Mazda 6. Did you detune it? How would you even register it?

Lemers 06-13-2012 07:36 PM

Maybe he was racing against people who didn't know they were racing. I mean how many GT500 drivers would exspect to be challenged by a Mazda 6?

shadoquad 06-13-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1770518)
Maybe he was racing against people who didn't know they were racing. I mean how many GT500 drivers would exspect to be challenged by a Mazda 6?

AWD turbo 4 always beats supercharged v8!


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