2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe Face-Lifted

Isamu · 11-15-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NewlyIMPORTed

I like it all.. I'm scared for the z at the rate they are going with the gen coupe..

it will still be heavier... like Red said, dynamics...

Cmike2780 · 11-15-2011, 03:04 PM

I still think the Z will outpace the Gen Coupe, even with the power bump . The Nismo afterall, also has 350 hp and not that much faster than a non-Nismo Z. Granted Hyudai is claiming 295 lb-ft of torque (pretty big jump by the way) could make things interesting. The weight advantage isn't that much compared to the Z since the Gen Coupe weighs roughly 3,400 lbs.

Lug · 11-15-2011, 03:15 PM

If you dump the numbers in an online calculator, the Z and the Genesis come up dead even on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Being lighter will help the Z a bit in the handling department, all other things being equal.

Cmike2780 · 11-15-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

If you dump the numbers in an online calculator, the Z and the Genesis come up dead even on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Being lighter will help the Z a bit in the handling department, all other things being equal.

0-60 and 1/4 mile times always had the Z faster, with a higher trap speed and far from dead even. Stock Z runs in the low-mid 13's with Gen Coupe in the high 13's-low 14's range. 0-60 was in the high 5's for the Gen Coupe. The closest match was the Mustang, before they came out with the 5.0. Online calculators don't take everything and you can't really go by that and I'd have to see and believe an extra 44 hp could cut a second off. We'll have to wait and see how it really runs.

TypeOne · 11-15-2011, 05:42 PM

I wonder if the rear quarter glasses will fall out of these like the old model did. LOL

All hating aside, it's ugly.

:-P

shadoquad · 11-15-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeOne

All hating aside, it's ugly.

This statement, isolated, is hilarious!!! <3

Lug · 11-15-2011, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

0-60 and 1/4 mile times always had the Z faster, with a higher trap speed and far from dead even. Stock Z runs in the low-mid 13's with Gen Coupe in the high 13's-low 14's range. 0-60 was in the high 5's for the Gen Coupe. The closest match was the Mustang, before they came out with the 5.0. Online calculators don't take everything and you can't really go by that and I'd have to see and believe an extra 44 hp could cut a second off. We'll have to wait and see how it really runs.

General rule of thumb is about .1 sec for every 10 hp in the weight range, so if the Gcoupe was .5 sec slower, this will bring it almost even, maybe just a tic slower.

370Ztune · 11-15-2011, 06:50 PM

It's an interesting look. Kinda sucks that the turbo version jumped so much in power; it's like a burn for the guys that bought the older car...

phelan · 11-15-2011, 06:55 PM

They should write to Hyundai North America and demand a retrofit. It's a sports car, it should have come with a turbo to begin with

370Ztune · 11-15-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

They should write to Hyundai North America and demand a retrofit. It's a sports car, it should have come with a turbo to begin with

HAHA!

It did, they just got bs power to match that turbo - 210hp versus the ~270 now.

Cmike2780 · 11-15-2011, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

General rule of thumb is about .1 sec for every 10 hp in the weight range, so if the Gcoupe was .5 sec slower, this will bring it almost even, maybe just a tic slower.

By that logic the Nismo should hit 0-60 in the mid 4's, which it doesn't to my knowledge. I do agree it will be a close race though.

bigdog1250 · 11-15-2011, 07:49 PM

I'm excited with all these power boosts from different companies as Nissan will undoubtably up the game for the next gen Z.

Has anyone else read the insane specs on the new GT500 stang... 200mph, 650hp, 600lbs!!! WTF, the real decider will be the price. Anything around $60k would make this rocket a ridiculous deal.

Lug · 11-16-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780

By that logic the Nismo should hit 0-60 in the mid 4's, which it doesn't to my knowledge. I do agree it will be a close race though.

Agreed. The logic falicy however is how the NISM0 added 5 to 6% more power and supposedly better tires yet gained no discernable speed increase at all, regardless of how any other car stacks up.

kenchan · 11-16-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250

I'm excited with all these power boosts from different companies as Nissan will undoubtably up the game for the next gen Z.

they will also up the price too, considerably...

maybe they will release a mid-$20K silvia/240sx again if FRS takes off.

GZ3 · 11-17-2011, 10:46 AM

i think this car will be a direct competitor for the Z, maybe even edge it out...well see how well it responds to mods...due to the DI it should respond well. weight will be the biggest factor here. I dont see why a 350hp genesis cant edge out a 332hp Z if a 305 hp v6 stang has been doing it

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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	I still think the Z will outpace the Gen Coupe, even with the power bump . The Nismo afterall, also has 350 hp and not that much faster than a non-Nismo Z. Granted Hyudai is claiming 295 lb-ft of torque (pretty big jump by the way) could make things interesting. The weight advantage isn't that much compared to the Z since the Gen Coupe weighs roughly 3,400 lbs. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

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Lug A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,926 Drives: 2006 350Z Rep Power: 19	If you dump the numbers in an online calculator, the Z and the Genesis come up dead even on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Being lighter will help the Z a bit in the handling department, all other things being equal. __________________ keep Chubbs in your pocket - Chubbs

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370Ztune The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,477 Drives: Z34 370Z Rep Power: 46	It's an interesting look. Kinda sucks that the turbo version jumped so much in power; it's like a burn for the guys that bought the older car... __________________ The Real JDM Facebook Bulletproof Instagram

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phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 38 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	They should write to Hyundai North America and demand a retrofit. It's a sports car, it should have come with a turbo to begin with __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

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bigdog1250 Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 846 Drives: 991.2 GT3 Rep Power: 18	I'm excited with all these power boosts from different companies as Nissan will undoubtably up the game for the next gen Z. Has anyone else read the insane specs on the new GT500 stang... 200mph, 650hp, 600lbs!!! WTF, the real decider will be the price. Anything around $60k would make this rocket a ridiculous deal. __________________ 350z / 40th 370z / C6 Z06 / BMW M4 / V10 R8 / C7 Grand Spot / 997.1 GT3 / S2K / Camaro ZL1 / 718 GTS / 991.2 GT3

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TypeOne A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 2,682 Drives: BSM 370 Rep Power: 1851	I wonder if the rear quarter glasses will fall out of these like the old model did. LOL All hating aside, it's ugly. :-P

11-17-2011, 10:46 AM	#30 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 21	i think this car will be a direct competitor for the Z, maybe even edge it out...well see how well it responds to mods...due to the DI it should respond well. weight will be the biggest factor here. I dont see why a 350hp genesis cant edge out a 332hp Z if a 305 hp v6 stang has been doing it __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

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