Should I trade my Z For a Shelby or 5.0

Lemers · 11-15-2011, 12:46 AM

Wasn't 200 mph one of the supercar indicators?

Skeeterbop · 11-15-2011, 12:48 AM

I could see it fetching between 50-55k before the dealer tacks on their stupid market adjustment or w/e they want to call it.

Skeeterbop · 11-15-2011, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

Wasn't 200 mph one of the supercar indicators?

I do believe so.

FL 4Motion · 11-15-2011, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I bet it will be gone for the new 2014 car.

I hope so. Regardless, DAMN! I'm really liking where ford is taking the 'stang. At this rate, the next gen will be incredible.

Nissan, wake the fVck up already!

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2011, 12:49 AM

Yeah but Supercars need to be really pricey. It might offer supercar performance, though.

Lemers · 11-15-2011, 12:50 AM

I want one. I talking to the wife tomorrow when I see her.

Lemers · 11-15-2011, 12:51 AM

Now if they'd bring back the bullet green for the gt500 I'd be in heaven

Skeeterbop · 11-15-2011, 12:52 AM

Just reading the Motortrend article, that thing sounds like it will be sick! Lemers, can I pay you to get a ride in that thing if you do buy it?

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2011, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion

I hope so. Regardless, DAMN! I'm really liking where ford is taking the 'stang. At this rate, the next gen will be incredible.

Nissan, wake the fVck up already!

From what has been confirmed so far with the next gen is it will be 250 lbs lighter (minimum) and it will have direct injection and most likely IRS. So 3,350 lbs at maximum and somewhere around 450hp for the GT.

The V6 might be getting replaced with a turbo 4.

This 2013 GT500, though, is pretty damn interesting. I knew it'd be around 600 hp but wasn't expecting 650, and certainly wasn't expecting Ford to throw out the big "200." Hopefully they put out some 'Ring times to see how it compares to the ZL1.

FL 4Motion · 11-15-2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yeah but Supercars need to be really pricey. It might offer supercar performance, though.

I disagree, it the car provides supercar performance stock, then by default, it is not a "supercar"?

Now exotic on the other hand, that a bit different, limited production #'s, price etc.

I judge if a car is "super" or not based off of it's stock performance abilitiy. Ie. the Viper ACR, ZR1 vette, GTR etc are all supercars, just like the 911 turbo and turbo S etc are as well.

I suppose you could say that all exotics are supercars, but not all supercars are exotic.

(and if an exotic car doesn't provide supercar performance for some reason, then it's more of a boutique type niche vehicle and not worth owning imo).

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2011, 12:54 AM

If we continue to debate this we will murder ourselves and many others, so let's agree to disagree. I was mostly being facetious as "supercar" is debated here often.

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2011, 12:55 AM

Also, I need to talk to Lou in the AM about this GT500. Where is that AA thread again?

FL 4Motion · 11-15-2011, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

From what has been confirmed so far with the next gen is it will be 250 lbs lighter (minimum) and it will have direct injection and most likely IRS. So 3,350 lbs at maximum and somewhere around 450hp for the GT.

The V6 might be getting replaced with a turbo 4.

This 2013 GT500, though, is pretty damn interesting. I knew it'd be around 600 hp but wasn't expecting 650, and certainly wasn't expecting Ford to throw out the big "200." Hopefully they put out some 'Ring times to see how it compares to the ZL1.

I'm really really interested in seeing what the next gen 'stang turns out like. Ford is just hitting home run after home run with this car now. If nissan kills the Z, I can see picking one of the next gen GTs or Boss 302's as a nice addition to our Nismo Z at some point (unless the wife gets her way and we just pick up a lightly used GTR instead).

FL 4Motion · 11-15-2011, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

If we continue to debate this we will murder ourselves and many others, so let's agree to disagree. I was mostly being facetious as "supercar" is debated here often.

Agreed, I remember some of the convos on here about this topic.

m4a1mustang · 11-15-2011, 12:57 AM

Things just keep getting better and better for car guys. I think we have a few more years of this left before Gov't comes in and makes us all buy one collective Prius.

11-15-2011, 12:46 AM	#91 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Wasn't 200 mph one of the supercar indicators? __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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Skeeterbop A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Age: 40 Posts: 1,440 Drives: 2011 GM 370 base SP Rep Power: 16	I could see it fetching between 50-55k before the dealer tacks on their stupid market adjustment or w/e they want to call it. __________________ Srenity: "Yeah no rest needed to spread the love when your 20 that's for sure...."

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Yeah but Supercars need to be really pricey. It might offer supercar performance, though. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

11-15-2011, 12:50 AM	#96 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	I want one. I talking to the wife tomorrow when I see her. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Now if they'd bring back the bullet green for the gt500 I'd be in heaven __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

11-15-2011, 12:52 AM	#98 (permalink)
Skeeterbop A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Age: 40 Posts: 1,440 Drives: 2011 GM 370 base SP Rep Power: 16	Just reading the Motortrend article, that thing sounds like it will be sick! Lemers, can I pay you to get a ride in that thing if you do buy it? __________________ Srenity: "Yeah no rest needed to spread the love when your 20 that's for sure...."

11-15-2011, 12:54 AM	#101 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	If we continue to debate this we will murder ourselves and many others, so let's agree to disagree. I was mostly being facetious as "supercar" is debated here often. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Also, I need to talk to Lou in the AM about this GT500. Where is that AA thread again? __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

11-15-2011, 12:57 AM	#105 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Things just keep getting better and better for car guys. I think we have a few more years of this left before Gov't comes in and makes us all buy one collective Prius. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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