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Jacky 10-24-2011 12:25 PM

Question for the Mustang owner
 
Hi all,

I currently drives an Audi s4. I decided to use it as a daily driver. I was shopping between the z and a few other 2 door cars or a daily driver and use the s4 on weekends. I ended up with a dealership owned 2011 mustang convertible auto navigation with the RTR package w 5800 miles. I know nothing about the mustang, i tried to google specs for the 2011 mustang convertible and found out that the 0-60 is roughly 4.7 seconds for stick. There's seems to be no test for automatic, does anyone know if the auto is a lot slower? I have no idea what the RTR package does (performance wise), anyone know?

I hope i didn't bump down performance wise compare to the 370z that i was looking into.

Thanks in advance.

Cmike2780 10-24-2011 12:33 PM

Magazine number's should be taken with a grain of salt, although most would agree the 5.0's power and torque numbers are a significant amount more than the Z. I seriouslly doubt having the automatic will add any more than a tenth on the 0-60 time. It's kind of a meaningless stat anyways. More to for the sake of bragging rights. The real number you should be looking at is 1/4 mile time and trap speed.

m4a1mustang 10-24-2011 12:37 PM

Yeah don't put too much faith in 0-60 test numbers for any car.

As far as auto vs. 6MT... they are close and is largely dependent on gearing. With the Mustang GT you can get it with one of three different final drive ratios... 3.31, 3.55, or 3.73. Not sure if all of those options are available with the automatic or not, but I wouldn't worry about the auto being any slower than the manual. There are some very fast autos out there.

shadoquad 10-24-2011 12:43 PM

You should probably check out a Mustang forum for better info, but yeah, I doubt the performance difference is significant.

Shouldn't matter, just go enjoy your new ride ;)

Red370 10-24-2011 01:22 PM

If not mistaken, there was actually a guy with a red auto convertible over on afm that posted either a 12.6 or a 12.7 stock, the auto tranny in the 5.0 is ridiculously fast.

somatic 10-24-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1374223)
You should probably check out a Mustang forum for better info, but yeah, I doubt the performance difference is significant.

Shouldn't matter, just go enjoy your new ride ;)

red zed is trolling lol

Jacky 10-24-2011 01:38 PM

I'm researching more and more about the car. It's my 3rd day owning it.

Red__Zed 10-24-2011 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somatic (Post 1374329)
red zed is trolling lol

Wat? I didn't even post

toxik 10-24-2011 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1374341)
Wat? I didn't even post

now he's officially trolling

ImportConvert 10-24-2011 02:37 PM

Magazine 0-60 numbers are misleading because of the crappy tires/rims. The car should do 0-60 in the very low 4-second range with some decent rubber on it rather than that bicycle tire crap Ford puts on them. Hell, the 370Z has a rear tire of roughly the same width as the 3800# 550bhp Shelby GT500. Fail.

6MT 10-24-2011 02:40 PM

B U R P ! !


Sorry... I thought I'd bring something meaningful to this thread since it has to do with Mustangs and not Z's. I know, I know.... this is a section about other things... but please .... the title....:facepalm:

shadoquad 10-24-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1374435)
Magazine 0-60 numbers are misleading because of the crappy tires/rims. The car should do 0-60 in the very low 4-second range with some decent rubber on it rather than that bicycle tire crap Ford puts on them. Hell, the 370Z has a rear tire of roughly the same width as the 3800# 550bhp Shelby GT500. Fail.

:iagree: so much. Rag times always assume a stock setup, and if you really want performance, you're gonna upgrade, whether or not it's with factory warrantied parts.

m4a1mustang 10-24-2011 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1374443)
B U R P ! !


Sorry... I thought I'd bring something meaningful to this thread since it has to do with Mustangs and not Z's. I know, I know.... this is a section about other things... but please .... the title....:facepalm:

Generic reply.

shadoquad 10-24-2011 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1374469)
Generic reply.

troll reply twisting the words of generic reply and aimed at your mother or possibly your sexuality.

m4a1mustang 10-24-2011 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1374512)
troll reply twisting the words of generic reply and aimed at your mother or possibly your sexuality.

something something herman cain, something, and maybe some cranberries.

shadoquad 10-24-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1374514)
something something herman cain, something, and maybe some cranberries.

I have been :owned:

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cranberries are delicious :yum:

m4a1mustang 10-24-2011 03:04 PM

Agreed.

Red__Zed 10-24-2011 03:14 PM

Insert seemingly de-escalating, but actually instigatory comment to stir trouble back up after situation was defused

shadoquad 10-24-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1374561)
Insert seemingly de-escalating, but actually instigatory comment to stir trouble back up after situation was defused

threaten to ban while not actually possessing mod powers

KUSH 10-24-2011 03:34 PM

RTR comes with quite a few performance improvements. ford racing calibration, high-flow filter, falken FK-452 tires, ford racing mufflers, and ford racing dampers and springs. not to mention the bad *** aero kit designed by vaughn gittin jr.(i think). congratz man. have fun with your new ride =D

Lug 10-24-2011 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacky (Post 1374191)
Hi all,

I currently drives an Audi s4. I decided to use it as a daily driver. I was shopping between the z and a few other 2 door cars or a daily driver and use the s4 on weekends. I ended up with a dealership owned 2011 mustang convertible auto navigation with the RTR package w 5800 miles. I know nothing about the mustang, i tried to google specs for the 2011 mustang convertible and found out that the 0-60 is roughly 4.7 seconds for stick. There's seems to be no test for automatic, does anyone know if the auto is a lot slower? I have no idea what the RTR package does (performance wise), anyone know?

I hope i didn't bump down performance wise compare to the 370z that i was looking into.

Thanks in advance.

The auto GT's generally have been as fast or 1 tic faster than the manuals, similar to the Z.

Nismoracer 10-24-2011 11:02 PM

5.0 mustang 0-60 4.8 / 13.0 auto 4.4 / 12.7 stick so they say. Mine auto stock was 5.1 / 13.5. Not hard launches. Just changing to cheater slicks makes a huge difference. Whats trick about this 5.0 engine is that it responds well to base mods. Cai and tune and exhaust. The stock time is 87oct. You gain 10hp just from using 93octane. Stick the base mods 4.2 / 12.3 or so. I'm sticking some wider rear wheels on sometime in the near future.

Nismoracer 10-24-2011 11:10 PM

I get my numbers from my gtech pro ss and adyno and dynolicious. Pretty close to the strip times last time i went. There are some inconsistencies when your rushing to set them up before the run. But you get it right and you dont move they are pretty close. Off by hundreths and a mph or 2.

ImportConvert 10-25-2011 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1374461)
:iagree: so much. Rag times always assume a stock setup, and if you really want performance, you're gonna upgrade, whether or not it's with factory warrantied parts.

Well, not ALL the time, but ESPECIALLY in the case of the mustang GT, and MOST ESPECIALLY in the case of the new 5.0/Shelby/etc.

Note how the BOSS pulls a sub 4 second 0-60 if you don't count roll-out? Do you REALLY think another 30bhp lopped off .8 seconds? Nope. They finally just put some better/wider rubber under the car. Ford sucks so hard for not putting tires under their cars.

Back in 2005 when I worked for Ford, we beat the piss out of a (then) new mustang GT. It spun so bad on the 1-2 shift it was a joke. My F-body by contrast had more power, and stayed PLANTED with barely a sqeak on a redline 1-2 shift. Every mustang I ever raced that was even remotely in my "league" I beat if a 1-2 shift was involved.

Ford: I love the 5.0, think lighter is better, now slap some rubber under it! You have proved you can make a live-axle work, good for you, we bow to your persistence, but it's time to get with the 21st century and slap some IRS under the car so you can go wider on tires without eating the fender and put some real rubber under it.

shadoquad 10-25-2011 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1375613)
Well, not ALL the time, but ESPECIALLY in the case of the mustang GT, and MOST ESPECIALLY in the case of the new 5.0/Shelby/etc.

Note how the BOSS pulls a sub 4 second 0-60 if you don't count roll-out? Do you REALLY think another 30bhp lopped off .8 seconds? Nope. They finally just put some better/wider rubber under the car. Ford sucks so hard for not putting tires under their cars.

Back in 2005 when I worked for Ford, we beat the piss out of a (then) new mustang GT. It spun so bad on the 1-2 shift it was a joke. My F-body by contrast had more power, and stayed PLANTED with barely a sqeak on a redline 1-2 shift. Every mustang I ever raced that was even remotely in my "league" I beat if a 1-2 shift was involved.

Ford: I love the 5.0, think lighter is better, now slap some rubber under it! You have proved you can make a live-axle work, good for you, we bow to your persistence, but it's time to get with the 21st century and slap some IRS under the car so you can go wider on tires without eating the fender and put some real rubber under it.

IC, how much of their tire decision has to do with tread life, if any, or are they all seasons? Or are they just cheaping out? I'm curious.

m4a1mustang 10-25-2011 08:43 AM

FWIW it's not as much the rubber as it is the suspension. There are people cutting 1.8 60's all day with the 255 width PZeros, which is great for a street tire.

m4a1mustang 10-25-2011 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1375784)
IC, how much of their tire decision has to do with tread life, if any, or are they all seasons? Or are they just cheaping out? I'm curious.

Base GTs come with all seasons. Anywhere from 235-245 width. The Brembo cars come with 255 width PZero summers all around.

I'm sure some of it is cost related. With the 255s I don't really feel like the car is under-tired. Could it use more, sure. But with the PZeros in 255 all around it has gobs of grip, save for the straight line stuff. If I stick with the Brembo package wheels I will be running 275s all around next year. I will get a hair bit more contact patch which will be nice.

The all-season equipped GTs don't even exist to me. Summer tires or GTFO.

FWIW, there are plenty of people running 305-315 width rears on these cars with no problems.

shadoquad 10-25-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1375807)
Base GTs come with all seasons. Anywhere from 235-245 width. The Brembo cars come with 255 width PZero summers all around.

I'm sure some of it is cost related. With the 255s I don't really feel like the car is under-tired. Could it use more, sure. But with the PZeros in 255 all around it has gobs of grip, save for the straight line stuff. If I stick with the Brembo package wheels I will be running 275s all around next year. I will get a hair bit more contact patch which will be nice.

The all-season equipped GTs don't even exist to me. Summer tires or GTFO.

FWIW, there are plenty of people running 305-315 width rears on these cars with no problems.

Yeah, I guess you'd only want all season tires if you daily drove one of these beasts, but who does that, right?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt86irtmJq1qf85lc.png

m4a1mustang 10-25-2011 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1375815)
Yeah, I guess you'd only want all season tires if you daily drove one of these beasts, but who does that, right?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt86irtmJq1qf85lc.png

All season = no season.

Anyone that daily drives their car in a place that they expect snow should have their summer set and their winter set. :tup:

shadoquad 10-25-2011 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1375817)
All season = no season.

Anyone that daily drives their car in a place that they expect snow should have their summer set and their winter set. :tup:

Yeah, I agree with you for the most part, although a second set of wheels, even cheap ones, with tires, is expensive. Worth it obviously, but it's costly.

Jacky 10-25-2011 08:54 AM

Thanks all. You guys are very informative.

Another question, this is also my first time owning a soft top convertible. Are they ok to go into car wash?

Thanks

m4a1mustang 10-25-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1375822)
Yeah, I agree with you for the most part, although a second set of wheels, even cheap ones, with tires, is expensive. Worth it obviously, but it's costly.

The confused looks on SUV drivers stuck in the snow as you drive by in your sports car is worth the $1400 expense. :tiphat:

m4a1mustang 10-25-2011 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacky (Post 1375826)
Thanks all. You guys are very informative.

Another question, this is also my first time owning a soft top convertible. Are they ok to go into car wash?

Thanks

I wouldn't feel comfortable taking a soft top convertible into a machine wash.

Red__Zed 10-25-2011 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1375829)
The confused looks on SUV drivers stuck in the snow as you drive by in your sports car is worth the $1400 expense. :tiphat:

Even better is the looks of the 911 drivers from the side of the road.

Jacky 10-25-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1375834)
I wouldn't feel comfortable taking a soft top convertible into a machine wash.


Eek, so only handwash?

m4a1mustang 10-25-2011 01:22 PM

That's what I would do. A brushless wash might be OK, but I definitely wouldn't go into a brush wash.

Red__Zed 10-25-2011 01:41 PM

Touchless washes are totally fine.

Brushed washes are rough on the top, just as they are on the paint. There's no reason to subject your paint to that....and the top will survive brushed washes if you put it through in a moment of weakness.


<----had his verts run through car washes by well meaning friends

Jacky 11-01-2011 09:43 PM

I'm sure everyone likes pictures. Here's some.

Special mention, my beloved audi s4 is also in some of the photos too.

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m4a1mustang 11-01-2011 09:59 PM

That center graphic really throws me off but otherwise it looks nice. I have never seen an RTR convertible before.

Waiz 11-02-2011 01:18 AM

Nice Stang OP, that thing is pretty cool :tup:


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