Speaking of the GT500, there is a rumor going around that Ford's 2013 GT500 test mule did it in the 7:34 area. Like I said, just a rumor... hasn't been confirmed or denied by Ford yet.

But Ford has no car above the Mustang currently, where GM does.
I honestly would take a Corvette any day of the week over the ZL1.

ditto

There is a market, though, that prefers a car like the Camaro/Mustang over a 2-seater like the Corvette. So that's where the ZL1/GT500 fits.

The 'rumor' on time has not been confirmed but someone who is on the team said (after the ZL1 time was posted) they are already below the time and still have some more room.

So would I, but GM is trying to compete with Ford on EVERY level. Are you trying to argue that the ZL1 is NOT the answer to the GT500?

that market has kids and a wife and doesn't deserve a fast car. :roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

I agree with that, not everyone can have a 2 seat car but still just buying a 50k Camaro/Mustang.

I am highly doubting a 3800# car with chicken-legs is within a dozen seconds of the Z06 Z07 and the GT-R and "regular" Viper. I am just not seeing it. If that is fact....wow. Lets see Ford publish it :)

An interesting thing that we need to note about Nurburging times is that, well, they don't really tell us all that much.

Think about it.

One lap of the Nurburgring is LONG. There are a lot of places to make mistakes, so even for the best drivers it's very difficult to get the "perfect" lap. I would say it is probably fair to assume that a great driver leaves at least a few seconds on the table even on their best lap. So if we are looking at a car that runs 7:40 and another that runds 7:35... they are in effect the same thing.

Still pretty damn cool to see what numbers they can put down, though.

well, if a 4100 lb. car can run a 7:41, I think a 3800 lb. car with more power can run a bit faster.

What 4100# car without AWD runs 7:41?

Like I said, it's rumor at this point. Ford won't publish anything until they make an official announcement on the car, so it's all speculation.

The only thing confirmed for the 2013 GT500 is a 5.8L supercharged V8.

Exactly and there is no 'rules' to these times, no official start point or anything.
I think it is a great tool to compare cars but we all saw the Nissan/Porsche debate back when the R35 GT-R first launched.

And some body redesign parts, no clue if that will help with aero or not.