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sunkist350z 09-30-2011 11:55 PM

2014 Toyota Supra
 
looks hot...

Attractive 2014 Toyota Supra Sports Car Concept

frost 10-01-2011 12:00 AM

Too bad there really isn't a 2014 supra.

Kingbaby 10-01-2011 12:15 AM

:sad:

djpathfinder 10-01-2011 12:19 AM

Would be cool if the Supra came back.

ImportConvert 10-01-2011 07:58 AM

Agree. It was an awesome car for its time, and still kicks *** today. It's neat how it has performance nearly identical to the 370Z even though it's about 15 years older comparably.

toxik 10-01-2011 08:41 AM

given toyota's awesome pricing on the LFA, I bet the supra will be like $160k and the GTR will still be the better buy

Jeffblue 10-01-2011 09:04 AM

The supra and the 300zx tt were both over 40k in the 1990s, so even if they made them to the exact same specs now, just inflation adjusted they'd each be over 60k. When you consider that the GTR is probably the least expensive new version of a turbocharged very fast GT car (skyline) and its about 90k, and toyota will probably expect at least 100k for this.

Alchemy 10-01-2011 09:17 AM

Looks like the offspring of a LFA and the FT86 concept.

ImportConvert 10-01-2011 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1339389)
The supra and the 300zx tt were both over 40k in the 1990s, so even if they made them to the exact same specs now, just inflation adjusted they'd each be over 60k. When you consider that the GTR is probably the least expensive new version of a turbocharged very fast GT car (skyline) and its about 90k, and toyota will probably expect at least 100k for this.

You're adjusting for inflation but not considering streamlining and advancement of technology as relates to production.

Jordo! 10-01-2011 08:41 PM

Hmm.

Well, all I can say is that if Toyota was going to do this, they have two options:

1. An upgraded version of the FR-S that would compete with the Z.

2. A downgraded version of the LFA that would compete with the GT-R.

That said, don't hold your breath...

Jeffblue 10-02-2011 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1339409)
You're adjusting for inflation but not considering streamlining and advancement of technology as relates to production.

are you saying that newer cars can be made as good for cheaper?

ImportConvert 10-02-2011 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 1340175)
are you saying that newer cars can be made as good for cheaper?

Consider that the 2010 C6 corvette costs within about $4,000 of the 1984 C4 Corvette after taking inflation into account...yeah.

Red__Zed 10-02-2011 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1340306)
Consider that the 2010 C6 corvette costs within about $4,000 of the 1984 C4 Corvette after taking inflation into account...yeah.

part of that is due to adjusting the target market for the vette. ZL1 buyers now were the regular vette buyers in the past.


Plus, there's been less significant streamlining since the 90's. The japanese had already lss'd their processes by that time, and not much has changed since.

Zaggeron 10-02-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1340312)
Plus, there's been less significant streamlining since the 90's. The japanese had already lss'd their processes by that time, and not much has changed since.

In addition, IC's comment assumes that an instantiation of a flagship concept car will be made with existing streamlined processes. Just as the technology that went into the 90s 300zx was brand new for its time and hence expensive, is there any reason to believe that the technology that goes into a new version of the Supra won't be just as cutting edge and expensive

Jeffblue 10-02-2011 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1340306)
Consider that the 2010 C6 corvette costs within about $4,000 of the 1984 C4 Corvette after taking inflation into account...yeah.

Understandible point. However, corvettes are pretty much running newer versions of the same idea now. Light car, big v8 engine the end. Great concept and it works. It also makes it easier for them to continually improve the car without significantly increasing the. Don't get me wrong, obviously the new LS motors are leaps and bounds over anything even from 10 years ago. Chevy didn't really have to cut anything out of the car in order to try and maintain or reduce its cost.

The only reason the 370z and 350z cost less than the z32 TT is because the Z went from having a purpose built twin turbocharged motor used only in one application, to simply using the same vq that they throw in into the Altima, Maxima, FX, EX, G, M (and i'm probably missing some). Designing every car around the same motor really helps cut costs, but when it comes to building performance cars, it really kills the performance and soul of the vehicle. The fact of the matter is, a stock 370z isn't exactly going sh1t all over a maxima in a straight line. You know why? because they have the same powerplant and the Z isn't even that much lighter.

Had the Z continued to receive its own motor for only its application it, and nissan had continued to improve upon its design, you'd wind up with a Z with a VR38DETT, and if the Z were actually designed around that motor, or one similar to it, the Z would beat corvettes just like it did in the 90's.

Lemers 10-02-2011 11:18 AM

Not too bad. If it comes true expect it to look very different from these pictures

agsti12 12-14-2011 05:34 AM

This is actually true toyota confirmed this like 2 months ago, supra name was about to be released for anyone to use and toyota didn't want that so.....yeah.

Aidan 12-14-2011 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agsti12 (Post 1448751)
This is actually true toyota confirmed this like 2 months ago, supra name was about to be released for anyone to use and toyota didn't want that so.....yeah.

Sounds legit

theDreamer 12-14-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agsti12 (Post 1448751)
This is actually true toyota confirmed this like 2 months ago, supra name was about to be released for anyone to use and toyota didn't want that so.....yeah.

Actually that does not confirm anything, it just shows that Toyota wants to keep a copyright to a name they previously owned. Companies do this all the time with names, look at modern items that get named after something from 20 years ago and the older item fights it.

I hope to see a new Supra or something above the 86/BR-Z but below the LFA.

chris410 12-14-2011 02:06 PM

Rumors or a Supra coming back are going on over 10 years. Sadly, if they did bring it back it would not be as potent as the MKIV Supra. Having owned a 97TT (which I turned into a big single) I would rather they left the Supra alone instead of bringing back a watered down version. Only way I would consider it is if they put in the 2JZGTE motor.

azn370z 12-14-2011 02:06 PM

The rumor is that the supra will return in 2015 to compete with the gtr. I think a $100k supra is a bad idea, no one wanted to pay $50k when it was discontinued.

HKYStormFront 12-14-2011 02:32 PM

looks LFA-ish :stirthepot:

kenchan 12-14-2011 03:36 PM

too bad it's a toyota.

Jamaica 12-14-2011 03:46 PM

I wish the supra came back

Rooster89 12-14-2011 05:08 PM

Doesn't the GTR cease production in 2016? So they would compete for like a year or so.

haitech 12-15-2011 01:29 AM

I remember when they said the supra was coming out in 2010....

KillerBee370 12-15-2011 01:19 PM

They should just let the dead king of power and styling rest. I think it's the '93-'97 model? STILL the absolute best lines on a car to date. (except maybe the Ferrari 360)

KillerBee370 12-15-2011 01:43 PM

It just doesn't get much better than this. Toyota hit a grand slam with this design.

http://image.modified.com/f/33972993...Bside_view.jpg

Spikuh 12-15-2011 01:50 PM

I have always maintained the theory that the LFA is nothing more than Toyota playing catch up on tech and laying the groundwork for a new Supra. It would make sense considering how much of a loss they take on each one of those vehicles.

That said, rumors of a new Supra have been around for ages and I expect to see a new one around the same time I expect to see a brand new S16.


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