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dweedlebug 09-27-2011 09:44 AM

Supercharged Genesis Coupe
 
Article on supercharged Genesis Coupe:

Supercharged Hyundai Genesis Coupe in the works

Isamu 09-27-2011 10:24 AM

belongs in other cars brah!

ChrisSlicks 09-27-2011 10:47 AM

Too many http's in your http.

Trips 09-27-2011 10:51 AM

Moved and Fixed Link

Armonster 09-27-2011 02:53 PM

this = win.

b1adesofcha0s 09-27-2011 02:59 PM

Now if only the Z would follow suit with a TT kit......

Isamu 09-27-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1332003)
now if only the z would follow suit with a tt kit......

this!!! Booyah!

Cmike2780 09-27-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1332003)
Now if only the Z would follow suit with a TT kit......

Meh... we already have that option, although without the factory warranty.

If they do go ahead with a supercharger with the Genesis Coupe, chances are, the price will push it a lot closer to $35-40k and eat up sales from lower spec models. If I had to guess, this is likely to end up as a 1 off test car.

b1adesofcha0s 09-27-2011 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1332079)
Meh... we already have that option, although without the factory warranty.

If they do go ahead with a supercharger with the Genesis Coupe, chances are, the price will push it a lot closer to $35-40k and eat up sales from lower spec models. If I had to guess, this is likely to end up as a 1 off test car.

The TT with factory warranty and the engine being built to handle it would be a huge deal for the Z IMO. I've heard the Infiniti G is going TT with a 3.5 L engine for the next generation, so its possible that it will come to the Z too.

Isamu 09-27-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1332184)
The TT with factory warranty and the engine being built to handle it would be a huge deal for the Z IMO. I've heard the Infiniti G is going TT with a 3.5 L engine for the next generation, so its possible that it will come to the Z too.

as I mentioned in the juke thread.. I would love to see a 3.7TT or even a new VQ30DETT

96bigbody 09-27-2011 07:33 PM

Rumors are around 400hp 425hp.
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight...x477-96636.jpg

http://www.hyundai-blog.com/wp-conte...coupe-2012.jpg

theDreamer 09-27-2011 07:36 PM

Looks ok, but I was hoping to see them throw in the V8.

Waiz 09-27-2011 07:46 PM

Not bad, this car has grown on me!

FL 4Motion 09-27-2011 08:09 PM

I hope this comes to pass, if for no other reason than to get Nissan off their a$$ and make the next gen Z competitive. :mad:

Cmike2780 09-27-2011 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1332184)
The TT with factory warranty and the engine being built to handle it would be a huge deal for the Z IMO. I've heard the Infiniti G is going TT with a 3.5 L engine for the next generation, so its possible that it will come to the Z too.

Totally agree. I saw this earlier.

Nissan's Super Juke to get GT-R power - IOL Motoring Industry News | IOL.co.za

b1adesofcha0s 09-27-2011 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1332491)
I hope this comes to pass, if for no other reason than to get Nissan off their a$$ and make the next gen Z competitive. :mad:

:iagree:

ImportConvert 09-28-2011 04:20 AM

Nissan...anybody home? You will soon have the only car in its segment still languishing in the mid 300bhp range besides Mazda's 1.3L...

*Anxious to see what next gen 370Z will be!*

shadoquad 09-28-2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1333150)
Nissan...anybody home? You will soon have the only car in its segment still languishing in the mid 300bhp range besides Mazda's 1.3L...

*Anxious to see what next gen 370Z will be!*

It's quite a statement on engine development that we now consider mid-300's "slow", but I'm with you on that.

I'm curious about the next 4-5 years. What will become of the Z? What will become of the GTR? Will we get a sported-up Leaf? Honestly, I couldn't be more excited about the possibilities. I think Nissan will stay the course and offer innovative performance vehicles, but what will they be?

b1adesofcha0s 09-28-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1333440)
It's quite a statement on engine development that we now consider mid-300's "slow", but I'm with you on that.

I'm curious about the next 4-5 years. What will become of the Z? What will become of the GTR? Will we get a sported-up Leaf? Honestly, I couldn't be more excited about the possibilities. I think Nissan will stay the course and offer innovative performance vehicles, but what will they be?

2013 GT-R's getting bumped up to 570+ HP. The R36 should be out in like 2-3 years and will probably have 600 HP or more by then. Gives Nissan some room to bump up the Z's performance :p

shadoquad 09-28-2011 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1333469)
2013 GT-R's getting bumped up to 570+ HP. The R36 should be out in like 2-3 years and will probably have 600 HP or more by then. Gives Nissan some room to bump up the Z's performance :p

hmmm, do I trade Chiana for a 450Z? :stirthepot:

red6spd 09-28-2011 10:40 AM

Like one guy mentioned, the car will probably be close to or over 40k with this since a 3.8 Gen Coupe is around 30k+ with some options. They can keep it. I sure hope the Z keeps changing for the better but as it stands right now with close to 100hp less then some of its competition I think it holds its own very well.

Cmike2780 09-28-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1333482)
Like one guy mentioned, the car will probably be close to or over 40k with this since a 3.8 Gen Coupe is around 30k+ with some options. They can keep it. I sure hope the Z keeps changing for the better but as it stands right now with close to 100hp less then some of its competition I think it holds its own very well.

Not to sound like a fanboy, but completely agree. The 370z does hold its own for the most part. Engine specs and power rating are great for bragging rights , but doesn't necessarily mean a faster/better car. Just look at the Porsche Cayman S vs 370z comparsions. On paper, the specs give the Z the advantage. In the real world however, most would agree that the Porsche is the better car (more balanced). You don't see Porsche trying to stuff a V8 in the Cayman because Ford came out with more powerful Mustang. Nissan should follow in that same regard by building an even more refined Z with a modest bump in power. Direct Injection alone should be able to push it close to the mid-high 300hp's. No doubt Nissan will play around with the VVEL as well so I really don't think going with forced induction is really necessary to be competitive.

Armonster 09-28-2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1333561)
You don't see Porsche trying to stuff a V8 in the Cayman because Ford came out with more powerful Mustang.

That's because (1) Porsche isn't competing with the Mustang, and (2) they don't want to eat up 911 sales.

Anyway, balance is all fine and good, but we're starting to sound like RX-8 drivers now. It's not a good sign when "balance" is all you can point to over the competition.

theDreamer 09-28-2011 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Armonster (Post 1333633)
That's because (1) Porsche isn't competing with the Mustang, and (2) they don't want to eat up 911 sales.

Anyway, balance is all fine and good, but we're starting to sound like RX-8 drivers now. It's not a good sign when "balance" is all you can point to over the competition.

Well, as much as we all love the Z, the brand might be dead as we currently view the car. Will the letter Z continue on? Yes, but most likely as something new & different soon. Nissan clearly is focusing on the R35 development as its halo car against competition and the Z is just a left over.

Cmike2780 09-28-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Armonster (Post 1333633)
That's because (1) Porsche isn't competing with the Mustang, and (2) they don't want to eat up 911 sales.

Anyway, balance is all fine and good, but we're starting to sound like RX-8 drivers now. It's not a good sign when "balance" is all you can point to over the competition.

That's kind of my point. Of course Porsche isn't going say "we are competing with the Mustang"...or 370z for that matter, but they are in the mix. Granted there are other factors, but it is not always about having the most powerful engine and never has been with the Z. Heck, comparing a Z to a Mustang or Camaro was pratically unheard of before the 350z/370z. I guess what I'm trying to get at is that a lot high performace cars nowadays are trying to be less of a one trick pony, so its a fair comparison when you talk about performace alone. They compared the M3 to the Boss 302, and the M3 to the Cayman, so why is a Cayman/Mustang comparison so farfetched? Having a more balanced car makes for a faster car around a track, something they focused greatly when designed the 370z. It's not the only thing to "point to over the competition," its what makes for great sports car. It's what makes the GT-R or 458 Italia so great, how is that a negative? Not the most powerful cars out there, but they hold there own because they work great when you look at the whole package.

shadoquad 09-28-2011 12:27 PM

I see your point, CMike. In fact, if power was all an enthusiast cared about, the Miata would have died in the 90's.

It is about the driving experience for me, not just the stat sheet.

Red__Zed 09-28-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1333789)
I see your point, CMike. In fact, if power was all an enthusiast cared about, the Miata would have died in the 90's.

It is about the driving experience for me, not just the stat sheet.

:werd:

The stat sheet actually matters very little in terms of what makes a good car.

b1adesofcha0s 09-28-2011 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1334493)
:werd:

The stat sheet actually matters very little in terms of what makes a good car.

But is the only thing that matters in the art of bench racing. One of the most prevalent forms of trolling on automotive forums :roflpuke2:

Isamu 09-28-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1333789)
I see your point, CMike. In fact, if power was all an enthusiast cared about, the Miata would have died in the 90's.

It is about the driving experience for me, not just the stat sheet.

this is truth.... Miata's are a blast to drive, and when you DO put more power in.. it gets redonkulous.. much like the s2k.. which I still love to this day

Isamu 09-28-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1334496)
But is the only thing that matters in the art of bench racing. One of the most prevalent forms of trolling on automotive forums :roflpuke2:

this is also true..


it's why I test drive new cars as often as possible... lol

Red__Zed 09-28-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1334496)
But is the only thing that matters in the art of bench racing. One of the most prevalent forms of trolling on automotive forums :roflpuke2:

:icon18:

I honestly would consider buying the next z if they dropped power levels but fixed the engine/trans stuff and gave it better balance:ugh2:

b1adesofcha0s 09-28-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1334504)
:icon18:

I honestly would consider buying the next z if they dropped power levels but fixed the engine/trans stuff and gave it better balance:ugh2:

Or they could do all that stuff and increase the power too :ugh2:

ImportConvert 09-28-2011 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1333561)
Not to sound like a fanboy, but completely agree. The 370z does hold its own for the most part. Engine specs and power rating are great for bragging rights , but doesn't necessarily mean a faster/better car. Just look at the Porsche Cayman S vs 370z comparsions. On paper, the specs give the Z the advantage. In the real world however, most would agree that the Porsche is the better car (more balanced). You don't see Porsche trying to stuff a V8 in the Cayman because Ford came out with more powerful Mustang. Nissan should follow in that same regard by building an even more refined Z with a modest bump in power. Direct Injection alone should be able to push it close to the mid-high 300hp's. No doubt Nissan will play around with the VVEL as well so I really don't think going with forced induction is really necessary to be competitive.

That's because Porsche has a complete line of sports cars, unlike Nissan. The Cayman is on the "entry level" side. It then goes to 345bhp, 385bhp, 415bhp, 530bhp, and 650bhp. (I may be off by 1 year-model or so and some of those may be upgraded, it's been a while since I looked at their line-up, but you get the point)

So what does Nissan have? 332 and 530.

No middle ground in price or power.

They appeal to someone who wants a Hyundai Genesis type car, and a 911TT type car, but noone who wants anything but one of the 2 extremes.

Typical of a "regular car" company that does not really care much about sports cars other than that they offer two, which sell dismally.

ImportConvert 09-28-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1333789)
I see your point, CMike. In fact, if power was all an enthusiast cared about, the Miata would have died in the 90's.

It is about the driving experience for me, not just the stat sheet.

Power is what makes it more fun, though! I drove a few 370Z's before I settled on something with more power. Lots of cars will handle well. The new V6 mustang handles better than the 370Z for crying out loud (At least, it turned lap-times at VIR VERY! similar to a NISMO even though it sat there banging off the 114mph speedo limiter for all the straight stretches, lol).

Balance is fine and dandy, but you also want to know that the car is going to GO when you mush the long skinny one to the right, because plenty of other cars have balance AND will GO!

Lets not start making excuses about "balance" and whatnot. It doesn't even really have that at 53/47. Unless of course now we are going to start using the mustang as a standard of comparison in the world of finely balanced sports cars. The only reason the Miata lives is because it is cheap as hell to maintain and offers great handling at that price-point. When you can go and auto-X the crap out of it and burn through a set of tires and not cry, it's a HUGE! selling point for an enthusiast without the desire to dump thousands of dollars a track day into their car.

FL 4Motion 09-28-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1333440)
It's quite a statement on engine development that we now consider mid-300's "slow", but I'm with you on that.

I'm curious about the next 4-5 years. What will become of the Z? What will become of the GTR? Will we get a sported-up Leaf? Honestly, I couldn't be more excited about the possibilities. I think Nissan will stay the course and offer innovative performance vehicles, but what will they be?

<-----strokes beard slowly and contemplates these big questions...

ChrisSlicks 09-28-2011 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1334547)
Power is what makes it more fun, though! I drove a few 370Z's before I settled on something with more power. Lots of cars will handle well. The new V6 mustang handles better than the 370Z for crying out loud (At least, it turned lap-times at VIR VERY! similar to a NISMO even though it sat there banging off the 114mph speedo limiter for all the straight stretches, lol).

I don't know who the heck drove these cars but they obviously don't know how to drive around corners, just mash the gas pedal. Shouldn't they use a professional driver for these kind of tests? In my experience the car has been as fast or faster than a Mustang GT or even a Boss around the track similarly equiped (occasionally a Corvette). Granted I didn't get to drive the Mustangs so I don't know what I could do behind the wheel. Power isn't everything, just makes it easy for inexperienced drivers to go faster.

Cmike2780 09-28-2011 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1334542)
That's because Porsche has a complete line of sports cars, unlike Nissan. The Cayman is on the "entry level" side. It then goes to 345bhp, 385bhp, 415bhp, 530bhp, and 650bhp. (I may be off by 1 year-model or so and some of those may be upgraded, it's been a while since I looked at their line-up, but you get the point)

So what does Nissan have? 332 and 530.

No middle ground in price or power.

They appeal to someone who wants a Hyundai Genesis type car, and a 911TT type car, but noone who wants anything but one of the 2 extremes.

Typical of a "regular car" company that does not really care much about sports cars other than that they offer two, which sell dismally.

Opinion, as always, duly noted and ignored.

kensnismo 09-28-2011 09:59 PM

almost bought genny coupe yesterday black on black looked sweet but it just dosen't have a motor yet.it has 306 hp but you wouldn't know it.

Red__Zed 09-28-2011 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1334654)
I don't know who the heck drove these cars but they obviously don't know how to drive around corners, just mash the gas pedal. Shouldn't they use a professional driver for these kind of tests? In my experience the car has been as fast or faster than a Mustang GT or even a Boss around the track similarly equiped (occasionally a Corvette). Granted I didn't get to drive the Mustangs so I don't know what I could do behind the wheel. Power isn't everything, just makes it easy for inexperienced drivers to go faster.



I always got flamed for saying the same thing about the drivers...maybe people will listen to you.


I can attest from having driven both cars that the mustang almost definitely has an edge. On a lot of tracks, the V6 mustang is just as fast, if not faster, than the z...a lot of it has to do with the fact that in stock trim, the mustang actually uses all four tires.

ImportConvert 09-28-2011 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 1334871)
Opinion, as always, duly noted and ignored.

Alas, but Nissan could not ignore the reality that many people share it, and so 370Z production was cut in half, roughly.


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