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old_account 09-27-2011 01:10 AM
our cars have wider tires than the almighty lambo aventador???
 
who woulda ever thought most of our modded cars would have wider tires than the aventador?

stock front aventador tires are puny 225/35/19 on 9.0!!!

rear tires on the other hand... :eek: :eek: :eek:

insideline article...

Quote:
None of the above would be of much use without suitable rubber. How do these massive Pirelli P Zeros grab you? They certainly grab the asphalt. For the record you're looking at 225/35R19 fronts mounted on 19-by-9 rims. The rears are 335/30R20 (that's another 50% wider, folks) and they live on 20-by-12 rims. Forged alloys all around, of course.
http://blogs.insideline.com/straight..._det_tires.jpg

ImportConvert 09-27-2011 01:21 AM
Maybe it has a huge rear-weight bias. I do find that very strange and wonder how it will affect lap times, or if they even care.

FL 4Motion 09-27-2011 01:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1331119)
Maybe it has a huge rear-weight bias. I do find that very strange and wonder how it will affect lap times, or if they even care.
I think new Lambo corp probably cares "some", old lambo corp from the 80's, hell no, as long as it looks cool, it's a go.

ImportConvert 09-27-2011 01:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1331121)
I think new Lambo corp probably cares "some", old lambo corp from the 80's, hell no, as long as it looks cool, it's a go.
Look forward to seeing 'ring and other lap-times, then!

Sibze 09-27-2011 08:55 AM
The Aventador has the second quickest time around Top Gear's track. I think it will be ok.

It probably doesn't need the big tire up front because its sure a light car. The front end on that thing wouldn't have much weight at all!

Sibze 09-27-2011 08:55 AM
Car used Time (mins)
Ariel Atom V8 1.15.1
Lamborghini Aventador 1.16.5
Bugatti Veyron SS 1.16.8
Gumpert Apollo 1.17.1
Ascari A10 1.17.3
Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear spoiler) 1.17.6
Noble M600 1.17.7
Pagani Zonda F Roadster 1.17.7
Caterham R500 1.17.9
Bugatti Veyron 1.18.3

shadoquad 09-27-2011 08:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1331121)
I think new Lambo corp probably cares "some", old lambo corp from the 80's, hell no, as long as it looks cool, it's a go.
:icon18: so true.

I've heard that it drove like sh*t, but God bless 'em for making these:

http://www.backtotheeighties.net/ima...-countach1.jpg

Red__Zed 09-27-2011 09:04 AM
They love that extreme stagger.


Love those tires!

toxik 09-27-2011 09:05 AM
aventador has a v12 inside, all else is irrelevant


/thread

m4a1mustang 09-27-2011 09:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1331297)
They love that extreme stagger.


Love those tires!
PZeros FTW

b1adesofcha0s 09-27-2011 09:22 AM
Aventador :yum:

Red__Zed 09-27-2011 09:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1331311)
PZeros FTW
You know a car is serious when they come stock:roflpuke2:

old_account 09-27-2011 10:57 AM
well, forget this thread since it was a typo on insideline's part :shakes head:

fronts are 255/35/19!

Technical Specifications < LP 700-4 < Aventador < Models < Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A.

daisuke149 09-27-2011 11:00 AM
hrmm. 335/30/20 Too bad its not 335/25/20 or i'd possibly use em.

WWJD 09-27-2011 11:08 AM
997.2 GT3 RS and GT2 come with 245/35/19 and 325/30/19. I guess the new lambo has similar weight ratio for front and rear as the 911's.

b1adesofcha0s 09-27-2011 11:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1331280)
Car used Time (mins)
Ariel Atom V8 1.15.1
Lamborghini Aventador 1.16.5
Bugatti Veyron SS 1.16.8
Gumpert Apollo 1.17.1
Ascari A10 1.17.3
Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear spoiler) 1.17.6
Noble M600 1.17.7
Pagani Zonda F Roadster 1.17.7
Caterham R500 1.17.9
Bugatti Veyron 1.18.3
Actually the McLaren MP4-12C did a time of 1:16.2, but part of that has to do with the fact that it was designed/tested at the Top Gear test track.

cossie1600 09-27-2011 11:20 AM
z's weight distribution is like 55/45 , of course it needs bigger front tires....

Sibze 09-27-2011 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1331542)
Actually the McLaren MP4-12C did a time of 1:16.2, but part of that has to do with the fact that it was designed/tested at the Top Gear test track.
For some reason that's not on the Top Gear's website...

Is it because its not for sale yet?

BBC - Top Gear - Power Laps

Also, for some weird reason the Bugatti Veyron SS is higher on the list the the Lambo even though the lambo did it quicker :icon14:

Sibze 09-27-2011 11:50 AM
Here is a list off of Wiki:


The Power Board
1:15.1 - Ariel Atom V8 500
1:16.2 - McLaren MP4-12C
1:16.5 - Lamborghini Aventador
1:16.8 - Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
1:17.1 - Gumpert Apollo S
1:17.3 - Ascari A10
1:17.6 - Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear Wing)
1:17.7 - Noble M600 (cold)
1:17.8 - Nissan GT-R (2012)
1:17.8 - Pagani Zonda Roadster F
1:17.9 - Caterham Seven Superlight R500 (cold)
1:18.3 - Bugatti Veyron 16.4
1:18.4 - Pagani Zonda F
1:18.9 - Maserati MC12
1:19.0 - Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce
1:19.0 - Enzo Ferrari
1:19.1 - Ferrari 458 Italia
1:19.5 - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4
1:19.5 - Porsche 997 GT2
1:19.5 - Ariel Atom 2 300

shadoquad 09-27-2011 11:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1331599)
Here is a list off of Wiki:


The Power Board
1:15.1 - Ariel Atom V8 500
1:16.2 - McLaren MP4-12C
1:16.5 - Lamborghini Aventador
1:16.8 - Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
1:17.1 - Gumpert Apollo S
1:17.3 - Ascari A10
1:17.6 - Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear Wing)
1:17.7 - Noble M600 (cold)
1:17.8 - Nissan GT-R (2012)
1:17.8 - Pagani Zonda Roadster F
1:17.9 - Caterham Seven Superlight R500 (cold)
1:18.3 - Bugatti Veyron 16.4
1:18.4 - Pagani Zonda F
1:18.9 - Maserati MC12
1:19.0 - Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce
1:19.0 - Enzo Ferrari
1:19.1 - Ferrari 458 Italia
1:19.5 - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4
1:19.5 - Porsche 997 GT2
1:19.5 - Ariel Atom 2 300
Three whole seconds faster than the Italia, you say? hmm, very interesting.

Score one for McLaren. Eat it, b1ades!

Sibze 09-27-2011 11:55 AM
Lmao:

"non-qualifying" vehicle


0:31.2 – BAE Sea Harrier[18] (Piloted by Lieutenant Nick Arkle RN.[19] Raced against the Saab 9–5 Aero. Took off then flew around track, ended in the air.)
0:59.0 – Renault R24 Formula One car[8] (Wet)
1:03.8 - Lotus T125.
1:08.5 – Pagani Zonda R[20]
1:08.6 – Aston Martin DBR9[10]
1:10.6 – Caparo T1[11]
1:10.7 – Ferrari FXX[13] (Driven by Michael Schumacher on slick tyres)
1:19.1 – Radical SR3[7]
1:22.6 – Westfield XTR2[6]

Red__Zed 09-27-2011 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1331599)
Here is a list off of Wiki:


The Power Board
1:15.1 - Ariel Atom V8 500
1:16.2 - McLaren MP4-12C
1:16.4 - Nissan 370z
1:16.5 - Lamborghini Aventador
1:16.8 - Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
1:17.1 - Gumpert Apollo S
1:17.3 - Ascari A10
1:17.6 - Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear Wing)
1:17.7 - Noble M600 (cold)
1:17.8 - Nissan GT-R (2012)
1:17.8 - Pagani Zonda Roadster F
1:17.9 - Caterham Seven Superlight R500 (cold)
1:18.3 - Bugatti Veyron 16.4
1:18.4 - Pagani Zonda F
1:18.9 - Maserati MC12
1:19.0 - Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce
1:19.0 - Enzo Ferrari
1:19.1 - Ferrari 458 Italia
1:19.5 - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4
1:19.5 - Porsche 997 GT2
1:19.5 - Ariel Atom 2 300
1:23:35:37.9 - ford mustang 5.0 (required two solid rear axle replacements)
Fixed to portray times more accurately.

shadoquad 09-27-2011 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1331612)
Fixed to portray times more accurately.
:icon18::icon18::icon18:

m4a1mustang 09-27-2011 12:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1331612)
Fixed to portray times more accurately.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1331614)
:icon18::icon18::icon18:
:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Sibze 09-27-2011 01:52 PM
Lmao, love the last place finish

Red__Zed 09-27-2011 01:57 PM
Not shown in first place is the Prius. A commanding lead was established early due to superior 0-6 mph times.

Sibze 09-27-2011 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1331892)
Not shown in first place is the Prius. A commanding lead was established early due to superior 0-6 mph times.
And it's tires

shadoquad 09-27-2011 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1331892)
Not shown in first place is the Prius. A commanding lead was established early due to superior 0-6 mph times.
Didn't count, though, because the prius comes on harder tires stock.

sibze beat me to the punch.

Red__Zed 09-27-2011 02:01 PM
Amazes me how they outhandle a 5.0 mustang.

Sibze 09-27-2011 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1331902)
Amazes me how they outhandle a 5.0 mustang.
That doesn't really amaze me



:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

b1adesofcha0s 09-27-2011 02:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1331602)
Three whole seconds faster than the Italia, you say? hmm, very interesting.

Score one for McLaren. Eat it, b1ades!
What? I don't hate the McLaren, I just like the Italia better. Also since the McLaren was designed for the Top Gear track, it better go around it faster :bowrofl:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1331612)
Fixed to portray times more accurately.
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

Red__Zed 09-27-2011 02:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1331966)
That doesn't really amaze me



:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:
Fact: a Prius would leave an m3 behind anywhere up to 107mph, then the m3 only wins due to higher top speed

shadoquad 09-27-2011 02:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 1331973)
What? I don't hate the McLaren, I just like the Italia better. Also since the McLaren was designed for the Top Gear track, it better go around it faster :bowrofl:
It wins, sucker. It wins, it wins, mwahaha and suck it. :roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

Sibze 09-27-2011 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1331974)
Fact: a Prius would leave an m3 behind anywhere up to 107mph, then the m3 only wins due to higher top speed
Only because of the tires

b1adesofcha0s 09-27-2011 02:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1331977)
It wins, sucker. It wins, it wins, mwahaha and suck it. :roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:
:icon18:

I still like the Aventador better than both :icon17:

FL 4Motion 09-27-2011 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1331286)
:icon18: so true.

I've heard that it drove like sh*t, but God bless 'em for making these:

http://www.backtotheeighties.net/ima...-countach1.jpg
/\ my favorite "dream" car from my youth. I still remember the first time I saw one (red of course) parked on the steet in some small town in England.


PS--Shado, sorry about the PM from the other day regarding my Nismo exhaust, I had a brain fart and thought you were in GA and not Md. forgot you were just there for ZNat'ls. :o

shadoquad 09-27-2011 07:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1332456)
/\ my favorite "dream" car from my youth. I still remember the first time I saw one (red of course) parked on the steet in some small town in England.


PS--Shado, sorry about the PM from the other day regarding my Nismo exhaust, I had a brain fart and thought you were in GA and not Md. forgot you were just there for ZNat'ls. :o
Oh, it's no probs, bud. :tup:

ImportConvert 09-28-2011 03:43 AM
I read the times on that track and....wtf? Supposedly an RX8 is faster than a 575 Maranello and a BMW 535D beats a Noble M12 GTO?

Yeah, that standard of measure just became worthless to me.

shadoquad 09-28-2011 09:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1333146)
I read the times on that track and....wtf? Supposedly an RX8 is faster than a 575 Maranello and a BMW 535D beats a Noble M12 GTO?

Yeah, that standard of measure just became worthless to me.
If people look to Top Gear as a standard for objective facts, they may end up disappointed. I watch it for the entertainment value and for the cars.

Don't take it seriously. Just enjoy the show. Hell, Clarkson's going to contradict himself on a car every third episode, but he's funny.

And these cars are taken out on different days by a racing driver. The conditions vary from wet/cold, hot/dry, etc, etc. Who knows what that driver's natural talents are and why some cars go faster in his hands? It's not set up for consistent results.

Pharmacist 09-28-2011 09:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1333146)
I read the times on that track and....wtf? Supposedly an RX8 is faster than a 575 Maranello and a BMW 535D beats a Noble M12 GTO?

Yeah, that standard of measure just became worthless to me.
:facepalm: The times for the maranello and noble were under very wet and wet conditions respectively. Top gear estimates about 4 seconds slower lap times on average due to wet conditions.


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