5.0

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Blindly setting your dampers to full stiff is not a ticket to performance. I've spent a lot of time in nj, and there's maybe a handful of roads where full stiff makes sense. The vast majority will cause you to experience all sorts of negative dynamics running full stiff

Brake dive is what allows the mustang to outbrake the z. Getting weight onto the front tires is crucial for both braking and turning. You'll notice many race teams spend a lot of time trying to allow for sufficient weight transfer while maintaining sufficient stability.


Like Steve said, much of this is subjective, to me (and many others) nose dive is no problem. You're entitled to your preferences, and perhaps should invest in some stiffer front springs.

Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

i love how you just assume that i don't try other settings and you sound like you know about my car better than i do. it is on the most stiff setting because it is the best i could dial the car in after hundreds of miles of trial in each setting. you've spent enough time in nj to experience every road? that's funny, because i keep finding these great roads in NJ that are great for spirited driving.

if you like more body roll and break dive i guess you can say what you said. but "absolutely, disgustingly amazing" tells me you haven't experienced many real sports cars.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Honestly I don't think you can take that comment at face value. Look deeper and it's disgustingly amazing because the car is a Mustang. A Mustang is not supposed to drive like this. A GT Mustang shouldn't even be within five seconds of an M3 at Willow Springs let alone a tenth of a second. Popular car culture has had us believing for years that at first sight of a corner the Mustang should plow straight off the road into a barrier.

To me, that is why it is so impressive. It's unexpected.

Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

yes the current 5.0 is the best mustang ever produced. though it does not mean it is amazing or incredible compare to other competitors. sheer performance wise yes the mustang is amazing especially when you consider the dollar to performance ratio. however, to some people numbers don't mean that much. i value the allover driving experience far above what numbers magazines produce.

it's the new 5.0 coyote that did it for me. yes the numbers are impressive, but it "feels" more like a pony car than a sports car.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I definitely never contend that it "feels" like a sports car. It feels like a pony car which is a cross between a sports car and a muscle car, and honestly that's how it should feel.

IRS will be a welcome addition if they do it right, and hopefully they do sort out the feedback from the electronic steering box. But as it stands right now it's an absolute blast to drive with a lot of aftermarket potential.

Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

i love how you just assume that i don't try other settings and you sound like you know about my car better than i do. it is on the most stiff setting because it is the best i could dial the car in after hundreds of miles of trial in each setting. you've spent enough time in nj to experience every road? that's funny, because i keep finding these great roads in NJ that are great for spirited driving.

if you like more body roll and break dive i guess you can say what you said. but "absolutely, disgustingly amazing" tells me you haven't experienced many real sports cars.

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I guess it is all relative. To me, a 4000 lb mustang on a solid rear axle that objectively matches or beats a 3300lb "dedicated sports car" and subjectively ranges from "almost as good as" to "better than" in the handling department is amazingly, disgustingly good.


I find your comment about me not driving sports cars funny.


Please do share your nj roads list. I will make sure to hit them up, maybe it will change my mind.

Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

mustang is 3600lb and it has a tremendous power advantage, almost 100hp and more than 100lb feet of torque. the GTR, lotus exige s240, cayman s and 911 turbo i drove have amazing, disgustingly good handling. mustang handles well in its class, but it's no where near disgustingly good.

if you want wide open roads with no cops go to Bridgeton and ask bigaudiofanat. if you like to carve mountain roads go to Hopacong.

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

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This is disgustingly good to me. Power was irrelevant on this years layout, and it tells you a lot about the car's nature. I

Those cars aren't in the same class as the mustang.


Curious how you would describe the 370z's handling?

Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

what am i suppose to be looking at? that mustang GT leads the Stock class in a race?

i like 370z's handling, it is pretty good.

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I guess it is all relative. To me, a 4000 lb mustang on a solid rear axle that objectively matches or beats a 3300lb "dedicated sports car" and subjectively ranges from "almost as good as" to "better than" in the handling department is amazingly, disgustingly good.


I find your comment about me not driving sports cars funny.


Please do share your nj roads list. I will make sure to hit them up, maybe it will change my mind.