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b1adesofcha0s · 10-16-2011, 10:23 PM

Nice job Asian-Steve

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

i sometimes wonder if the increased rotational mass cancels out the benefits on rear kits. i've never really seen any evidence that big rear brakes are needed on most street cars...

They really aren't needed on the street. I think if you really spent a lot of time tracking and liked to run more rearward bias than the typical street car it would be beneficial...

But then again, when it comes to brakes, look at NASCAR. You have 3400lb cars that run 15" wheels... you can't fit much brake inside those cars but yet they manage to go from 130 mph to 65 mph 1,000 times during a race at Martinsville on one set of rotors and pads. So there's definitely no real risk of failure assuming you've got all of your cooling in order with small brakes. It just helps to go bigger if you can.

There's no doubt a rear BBK looks badass, though.

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Nice job Asian-Steve

Thanks Asian-b1ades.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

They really aren't needed on the street. I think if you really spent a lot of time tracking and liked to run more rearward bias than the typical street car it would be beneficial...

But then again, when it comes to brakes, look at NASCAR. You have 3400lb cars that run 15" wheels... you can't fit much brake inside those cars but yet they manage to go from 130 mph to 65 mph 1,000 times during a race at Martinsville on one set of rotors and pads. So there's definitely no real risk of failure assuming you've got all of your cooling in order with small brakes. It just helps to go bigger if you can.

There's no doubt a rear BBK looks badass, though.

nah, I just mean weight-distro wise. our cars carry all their weight on the nose, and there is a ton of weight transfer. If you put an IR gun on the Z's brakes after the dragon, the rears barely heat up at all while the fronts are cooking...just the nature of the beast.

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 10:35 PM

I made a comment in another thread about how the BBKs on the 5.0 and the 370 look super small because of the 19" wheels.

My GF's CLK500 runs a 13.6" front disc (vs 14" for us) with 4 pot fronts, but it's all under a 17" rim. Looks so much bigger than the Mustang and Z.

Crap cell pic but you get the idea:

We'd need 15" or better rotors on our cars to get that look.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I made a comment in another thread about how the BBKs on the 5.0 and the 370 look super small because of the 19" wheels.

My GF's CLK500 runs a 13.6" front disc (vs 14" for us) with 4 pot fronts, but it's all under a 17" rim. Looks so much bigger than the Mustang and Z.

Crap cell pic but you get the idea:

We'd need 15" or better rotors on our cars to get that look.

haha, damn.

It's like the s2000...this is a 12.8" rotor

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

haha, damn.

It's like the s2000...this is a 12.8" rotor

That's awesome.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 10:47 PM

guys always bitched about having to get bigger rims to run decent size brakes kits....I think you had to go +2" to run a 13" rotor.

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 10:49 PM

On a car that light I doubt there was much need to run a huge rotor.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 10:51 PM

iirc, stock fronts were like 11.8. I ran carbotech pads and never had any issues, even with all the power I was pushing.

FromG2Z · 10-16-2011, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

honestly I don't think I'd ever drop the cash on a shelby. they are nice but when you get above 50k the competition is pretty fierce.

That's true. Can't we just drop 5-6k on a FRPP supercharger, get it dealer-installed, then get full warranty??? So why bother with a Shelby... lol

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

iirc, stock fronts were like 11.8. I ran carbotech pads and never had any issues, even with all the power I was pushing.

Your Volks looked hot. Which were those??? CE37?

Steve, nice review! In your opinion though, are the stock pads/rotors good enough? I would imagine, what makes the Brembo kit on our cars truly "Brembos" are the pads and calipers themselves? In other words, if I were to get replacement oem pads or calipers, would they be Brembo parts?

I do like the look of slotted tho. So you replaced both pads/rotors at 21k eh?

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 11:18 PM

Steve! Steve did the review!!!

The stock pads and rotors are awesome. The stock pads are a Ferodo street + light track compound (which is why I replaced them after 21k of street driving!). They are great.

The front calipers are Brembo. The rear are Ford. The pads are Ferodo/Brembo. Front rotors are Brembo. Rear rotors are Ford. It's a good setup.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Your Volks looked hot. Which were those??? CE37?

?

actually not mine, just some random dude's setup. I never upgraded the brakes on my car.

i think they're te's...not sure tho

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Steve! Steve did the review!!!

The stock pads and rotors are awesome. The stock pads are a Ferodo street + light track compound (which is why I replaced them after 21k of street driving!). They are great.

The front calipers are Brembo. The rear are Ford. The pads are Ferodo/Brembo. Front rotors are Brembo. Rear rotors are Ford. It's a good setup.

i steal your credit without even trying. people assume anything helpful came from me

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 11:21 PM

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i steal your credit without even trying. people assume anything helpful came from me

Which is surprising to say the least.

10-16-2011, 10:23 PM	#1921 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	Nice job Asian-Steve __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

10-16-2011, 10:35 PM	#1925 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I made a comment in another thread about how the BBKs on the 5.0 and the 370 look super small because of the 19" wheels. My GF's CLK500 runs a 13.6" front disc (vs 14" for us) with 4 pot fronts, but it's all under a 17" rim. Looks so much bigger than the Mustang and Z. Crap cell pic but you get the idea: We'd need 15" or better rotors on our cars to get that look. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-16-2011, 10:49 PM	#1929 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	On a car that light I doubt there was much need to run a huge rotor. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-16-2011, 11:18 PM	#1932 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Steve! Steve did the review!!! The stock pads and rotors are awesome. The stock pads are a Ferodo street + light track compound (which is why I replaced them after 21k of street driving!). They are great. The front calipers are Brembo. The rear are Ford. The pads are Ferodo/Brembo. Front rotors are Brembo. Rear rotors are Ford. It's a good setup. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-16-2011, 10:47 PM	#1928 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	guys always bitched about having to get bigger rims to run decent size brakes kits....I think you had to go +2" to run a 13" rotor.

10-16-2011, 10:51 PM	#1930 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	iirc, stock fronts were like 11.8. I ran carbotech pads and never had any issues, even with all the power I was pushing.