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m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

roger....ever decide what you are going with?

More than likely Michelin Pilot SS in 275/35 all the way around.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 02:05 PM

damn that's a clean-*** car.

those 285s look like they fit great.

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 02:10 PM

Yeah his car is super clean. One of the nicest looking ones I've seen around.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 02:16 PM

i want a kona car.

also a procharger.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 02:19 PM

i'm thinking about going with a staggered setup and just adjusting suspension to compensate. I feel like i need more tire out back...but I'm worried about messing up the balance.

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 02:22 PM

That would be pretty easy. You could run a bigger bar and/or spec some stiffer rear springs.

I agree though that if you are really concerned with putting the power down some wider rear wheels and tires would help.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 02:23 PM

i think it would help a lot with putting down the power. have to think about it a little.

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 02:28 PM

It would. What tire sizes out back are you thinking?

Given the stock balance of the car I think you have some wiggle room in terms of how much stagger you can run without dialing in too much understeer.

Sam Strano runs a square setup but with his spring and damper package he likes to take the rear bar down a bit to dial out some of the oversteer. My guess is a car on Konis, any Steeda spring package, and conservative front camber could remain fairly neutral even with 40mm of total stagger or so. Which to me would mean 275 front and 285-305 rear.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

It would. What tire sizes out back are you thinking?

Given the stock balance of the car I think you have some wiggle room in terms of how much stagger you can run without dialing in too much understeer.

Sam Strano runs a square setup but with his spring and damper package he likes to take the rear bar down a bit to dial out some of the oversteer. My guess is a car on Konis, any Steeda spring package, and conservative front camber could remain fairly neutral even with 40mm of total stagger or so. Which to me would mean 275 front and 285-305 rear.

i need more time with the car to figure out what I need. I'm thinking 275 fronts, then whatever I need out back. Gonna do dampers first, and see how the balance is then. I think the weak rear dampers mean the car will be kinda prone to oversteer once new dampers are on...

if I'm being honest, I think the car needs a bit more rear grip even from the factory, at least with my skill/attention level. I notice it's not tough to get the *** out with just a light lift, which I am often not prepared for since it rides so smooth all the time....I think a slightly reduced rear slip angle would be pretty helpful...

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 02:35 PM

You're right about the dampers. That's why Sam takes the rear bar down.

Regarding the oversteer with lift... welcome to Mustang. That's something that is just going to be there regardless of what you do with the car. You can tone it down, but you're better off not lifting.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You're right about the dampers. That's why Sam takes the rear bar down.

Regarding the oversteer with lift... welcome to Mustang. That's something that is just going to be there regardless of what you do with the car. You can tone it down, but you're better off not lifting.

I mean, I know that...it's just even with a partial lift, it steps out a bit more than I feel is safe for the street.

I drove my aunt's 07 for a while when I was in fl, and you had to completely lift before it would step out...the balance on this one makes it a little quicker to go.

I had an experience where traffic stopped suddenly on an offramp, and things got a little scary. thought i was back in an ap1

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I mean, I know that...it's just even with a partial lift, it steps out a bit more than I feel is safe for the street.

I drove my aunt's 07 for a while when I was in fl, and you had to completely lift before it would step out...the balance on this one makes it a little quicker to go.

I had an experience where traffic stopped suddenly on an offramp, and things got a little scary. thought i was back in an ap1

To be honest, I think you're being a bit of a pussy. Safe on the street? Puhleeze. Slow down if you can't handle it.

And if the rear steps out, just compensate with steering. Simple!

m4a1mustang · 10-16-2011, 02:43 PM

Dan I suggest you get some 225 fronts and 305 rears and disconnect the rear bar. Wouldn't want you to hurt yourself.

Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 02:45 PM

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Red__Zed · 10-16-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

To be honest, I think you're being a bit of a pussy. Safe on the street? Puhleeze. Slow down if you can't handle it.

And if the rear steps out, just compensate with steering. Simple!

i did. no problems were had. maybe I just need to get used to the idea of the rear being able to step out again...I've been driving a Z and a subaru

10-16-2011, 02:10 PM	#1863 (permalink)
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10-16-2011, 02:22 PM	#1866 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	That would be pretty easy. You could run a bigger bar and/or spec some stiffer rear springs. I agree though that if you are really concerned with putting the power down some wider rear wheels and tires would help. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-16-2011, 02:28 PM	#1868 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	It would. What tire sizes out back are you thinking? Given the stock balance of the car I think you have some wiggle room in terms of how much stagger you can run without dialing in too much understeer. Sam Strano runs a square setup but with his spring and damper package he likes to take the rear bar down a bit to dial out some of the oversteer. My guess is a car on Konis, any Steeda spring package, and conservative front camber could remain fairly neutral even with 40mm of total stagger or so. Which to me would mean 275 front and 285-305 rear. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-16-2011, 02:35 PM	#1870 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	You're right about the dampers. That's why Sam takes the rear bar down. Regarding the oversteer with lift... welcome to Mustang. That's something that is just going to be there regardless of what you do with the car. You can tone it down, but you're better off not lifting. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-16-2011, 02:43 PM	#1873 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Dan I suggest you get some 225 fronts and 305 rears and disconnect the rear bar. Wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-16-2011, 02:05 PM	#1862 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	damn that's a clean-*** car. those 285s look like they fit great.

10-16-2011, 02:16 PM	#1864 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	i want a kona car. also a procharger.

10-16-2011, 02:19 PM	#1865 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	i'm thinking about going with a staggered setup and just adjusting suspension to compensate. I feel like i need more tire out back...but I'm worried about messing up the balance.

10-16-2011, 02:23 PM	#1867 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	i think it would help a lot with putting down the power. have to think about it a little.

10-16-2011, 02:45 PM	#1874 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	:\|