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Red__Zed · 10-06-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

So you can tell the difference between information and misinformation.

Sounds like a lotta work

m4a1mustang · 10-06-2011, 11:14 AM

In other news, my tuner sent me some new tunes to try.

I was having some issues with high rpm pinging at times (above 6k rpm @ WOT) and thought that it might be partially attributed to the exhaust leak I have right now. Tuner doesn't think that's the case since it's post 02 sensor, but it might be.

Either way I was running a 93 Performance tune and he sent me one tuned for 91. We'll see how that works.

Also got an 89 Street tune for added flexibility.

GZ3 · 10-06-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

In other news, my tuner sent me some new tunes to try.

I was having some issues with high rpm pinging at times (above 6k rpm @ WOT) and thought that it might be partially attributed to the exhaust leak I have right now. Tuner doesn't think that's the case since it's post 02 sensor, but it might be.

Either way I was running a 93 Performance tune and he sent me one tuned for 91. We'll see how that works.

Also got an 89 Street tune for added flexibility.

did you hear the ping or through data logs?

m4a1mustang · 10-06-2011, 02:27 PM

Heard it.

I heard it once before when I first started with the tune this spring and we fixed it. So I'm thinking it's the exhaust or just bad gas (hence the decrease in the Octane rating on the new tunes).

GZ3 · 10-06-2011, 03:04 PM

i ve been thinking of going to a 91 tune just to be safe, there car will add timing anyway if you actually get 93oct or dump some torco in there...

m4a1mustang · 10-06-2011, 03:05 PM

That's my thought process.

Of course I am also mulling just ditching the intake and tune and not worrying about it. I won't do that, though. I'll just stick with dropping the octane specification on my tunes.

I'm probably going to switch from Performance to Street, and my new Street tune is for 89 octane.

Regarding octane, in stock form the ECU will run on anything 87 or higher. Ford says it makes 405 hp on 87 and the full 412 on 93. So obviously a little conservative with the timing advance, but still, there is not a large power difference.

GZ3 · 10-06-2011, 03:17 PM

yeah i hear on "thinking" about ditching the tune. All that #8 talk even though allot of it is bs kinda got to me. I have a suspension issue with my car right now and the tech advised that i remove my off road h and tune before i even think about bringing it in due to the new TSB. kinda of a pain

m4a1mustang · 10-06-2011, 03:27 PM

Yeah, that is a PITA.

I just want to get the tune sorted out and fix my exhaust leak and all should be well.

b1adesofcha0s · 10-06-2011, 03:34 PM

Damn Mustang just keeps getting better

We Hear: 2013 Ford Mustang to Get New Performance Gauges - WOT on Motor Trend

m4a1mustang · 10-06-2011, 03:40 PM

Yeah I saw those LCD guages. Totes jelly about that.

Lemers · 10-06-2011, 03:55 PM

Nice more distracters from the road.

" Why didn't you see that car in front of you hitting it's brakes?"

"I was seeing if I beat my best 0-60 time on the gauge"

FromG2Z · 10-06-2011, 05:38 PM

Steve...

So any sort of tune is banned by Ford for warranty work? Is it as simple as reverting the tune? Or can they still tell there was a tune. Therefore ANY mod is not allowed? How about my shifter????

Red__Zed · 10-06-2011, 05:52 PM

My understanding is there is a flash counter for tunes, and ford tracks whenever they flash. If the numbers don't match, they know you flashed.

m4a1mustang · 10-06-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Steve...

So any sort of tune is banned by Ford for warranty work? Is it as simple as reverting the tune? Or can they still tell there was a tune. Therefore ANY mod is not allowed? How about my shifter????

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

My understanding is there is a flash counter for tunes, and ford tracks whenever they flash. If the numbers don't match, they know you flashed.

I don't know of anything to substantiate that claim. From what I've read when you reflash the ECU it leaves a record just like if you disconnected the battery for 15 minutes.

As long as that is the case, you should be able to reflash to stock with no definitive trace of there ever having been a tune. If you are paranoid about it, you could replace your battery so you have a viable explanation for the flash.

As far as the shifter goes, that would only affect warranty repair if it was the root cause of damage to the car.

Red__Zed · 10-06-2011, 06:02 PM

I think they only check it on major things (blown engine)

Steve, I am positive there is a flash counter, and disconnecting the battery will not look like a reflash. We use similar controls for the controls we sell, except ours are for use on jet engines and such.

10-06-2011, 11:14 AM	#1457 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	In other news, my tuner sent me some new tunes to try. I was having some issues with high rpm pinging at times (above 6k rpm @ WOT) and thought that it might be partially attributed to the exhaust leak I have right now. Tuner doesn't think that's the case since it's post 02 sensor, but it might be. Either way I was running a 93 Performance tune and he sent me one tuned for 91. We'll see how that works. Also got an 89 Street tune for added flexibility. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-06-2011, 02:27 PM	#1459 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Heard it. I heard it once before when I first started with the tune this spring and we fixed it. So I'm thinking it's the exhaust or just bad gas (hence the decrease in the Octane rating on the new tunes). __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-06-2011, 03:04 PM	#1460 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 22	i ve been thinking of going to a 91 tune just to be safe, there car will add timing anyway if you actually get 93oct or dump some torco in there... __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

10-06-2011, 03:05 PM	#1461 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	That's my thought process. Of course I am also mulling just ditching the intake and tune and not worrying about it. I won't do that, though. I'll just stick with dropping the octane specification on my tunes. I'm probably going to switch from Performance to Street, and my new Street tune is for 89 octane. Regarding octane, in stock form the ECU will run on anything 87 or higher. Ford says it makes 405 hp on 87 and the full 412 on 93. So obviously a little conservative with the timing advance, but still, there is not a large power difference. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook! Last edited by m4a1mustang; 10-06-2011 at 03:07 PM.

10-06-2011, 03:17 PM	#1462 (permalink)
GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 22	yeah i hear on "thinking" about ditching the tune. All that #8 talk even though allot of it is bs kinda got to me. I have a suspension issue with my car right now and the tech advised that i remove my off road h and tune before i even think about bringing it in due to the new TSB. kinda of a pain __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

10-06-2011, 03:27 PM	#1463 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Yeah, that is a PITA. I just want to get the tune sorted out and fix my exhaust leak and all should be well. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-06-2011, 03:34 PM	#1464 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	Damn Mustang just keeps getting better We Hear: 2013 Ford Mustang to Get New Performance Gauges - WOT on Motor Trend __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

10-06-2011, 03:40 PM	#1465 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Yeah I saw those LCD guages. Totes jelly about that. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

10-06-2011, 03:55 PM	#1466 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Nice more distracters from the road. " Why didn't you see that car in front of you hitting it's brakes?" "I was seeing if I beat my best 0-60 time on the gauge" __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

10-06-2011, 05:38 PM	#1467 (permalink)
FromG2Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fields of Opportunities Posts: 1,406 Drives: '12 5.0, kona, 6MT Rep Power: 18	Steve... So any sort of tune is banned by Ford for warranty work? Is it as simple as reverting the tune? Or can they still tell there was a tune. Therefore ANY mod is not allowed? How about my shifter???? __________________ 2012 5.0 GT Prem, Kona Blue, 6MT, HID, Brembo, 3.73 -- Ordered: 9/20/11, Born on: 10/20/11, Delivered 11/15/11"Marilyn" GT500 mufflers/flaps, MGW shifter, FRPP K springs, BMR panhard bar, Boss coil covers, 3DC spoiler, Llumar Tint (35% and 20%), 3M ClearBra

10-06-2011, 05:52 PM	#1468 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	My understanding is there is a flash counter for tunes, and ford tracks whenever they flash. If the numbers don't match, they know you flashed.

10-06-2011, 06:02 PM	#1470 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	I think they only check it on major things (blown engine) Steve, I am positive there is a flash counter, and disconnecting the battery will not look like a reflash. We use similar controls for the controls we sell, except ours are for use on jet engines and such.