5.0

b1adesofcha0s · 09-21-2011, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Red__Zed · 09-21-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Something about the heads/cams, firing order, and exhaust system. Just shut up and listen.

I wanna know wai!

Just crazy, cuz I know they changed almost everything on the 5.0...the sound changed, but I can still identify it a mile away as a mod.

Isamu · 09-21-2011, 12:43 PM

so... if I win the lottery... Im keeping the Eagle..and boosting her...
BUT... I am gonna buy a regular 370z.. and swap in a 5.oh fuck yea!

Red__Zed · 09-21-2011, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

so... if I win the lottery... Im keeping the Eagle..and boosting her...
BUT... I am gonna buy a regular 370z.. and swap in a 5.oh fuck yea!

you high bro?

b1adesofcha0s · 09-21-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

you high bro?

He must be, or maybe it's just the taco bell messing with his head

Isamu · 09-21-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

you high bro?

why not? it would be pretty boss... or just do like the D-series Z and put in the VK

Red__Zed · 09-21-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

Interesting Vids to watch, since Red_Zed went to such lengths to prove me wrong. Seems like it does one thing better... Going in a straight line. LOL

2011 Ford Mustang GT Exclusive Track Video - YouTube

2009 Nissan 370Z Track Video - YouTube

Yeah, it was really a huge inconvenience to post up a picture--why would you bother posting something obviously false when everyone has access to it and the ability to call you out on it?

FromG2Z · 09-21-2011, 01:50 PM

alright, Steve, Dan, please help me out here.

Should I order new or get used? This is essentially the ultimate question. Here's some facts:

Used:
2011 Red candy, fully optioned out (navi, hid's, etc), 3.73, comfort, electronics, including optional 19's. But no Brembo. less than 2500 miles.

New:
obviously I'd get it the way I want it, which is probably Kona Blue but just with brembo and 3.73

Bottomline, going new would be about ~$2k more.

Used or new?

Would the 2011's be more prone to tranny issues?

Red__Zed · 09-21-2011, 01:53 PM

Sounds like new is a no brained to me.

I don't think the car is worth it sans brembo

Lemers · 09-21-2011, 01:58 PM

Only buy a "new" used car if it is exactly what you want. A $2k discount isn't that much when you are talking $30k +

m4a1mustang · 09-21-2011, 01:58 PM

I would order new. There are so many options available it's the best way, it's hard to find one on a lot with the exact specs you want.

Kona is an awesome color.

Regarding the transmission, I think in general 2012 is less likely to have issues as it's the second year of the build... that's true with every car. I don't think the transmission was ever a real problem, though, but that's up for debate.

Just order new with the spec you want.

I would not buy the non-Brembo car unless I immediately planned on a BBK and suspension mods.

FromG2Z · 09-21-2011, 02:03 PM

Sounds like the brembo option is the key eh? You guys must have the brembo's and love it? Have you tested without the brembos? Does it really ride softer and stop slower? What's keeping me thinking about the Red Candy used, is because it's fully loaded...... the color is neat too. But I prefer Kona tho... but could be swayed I guess... lol

esfourteen · 09-21-2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Sounds like the brembo option is the key eh? You guys must have the brembo's and love it? Have you tested without the brembos? Does it really ride softer and stop slower? What's keeping me thinking about the Red Candy used, is because it's fully loaded...... the color is neat too. But I prefer Kona tho... but could be swayed I guess... lol

its not just the calipers, the brembo pack comes with stiffer suspension, a "sport" traction control mode, and those 19x9 wheels. it's sort of like the sports package for the Z.

Red__Zed · 09-21-2011, 02:08 PM

Was not impressed with the non-brembo option at all. Test drive an 11 right after I bought my z and it made me feel better about the z....
Then drove the brembo model...and...we know how that went.

Whether you want it loaded is up to you...but I'd be suspicious of such a new car traded back in

m4a1mustang · 09-21-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FromG2Z

Sounds like the brembo option is the key eh? You guys must have the brembo's and love it? Have you tested without the brembos? Does it really ride softer and stop slower? What's keeping me thinking about the Red Candy used, is because it's fully loaded...... the color is neat too. But I prefer Kona tho... but could be swayed I guess... lol

Stopping distance is close. The base brakes on the Mustang are decent and stop within 10 feet of the Brembos on average, much of this due to the difference in tire compound. The real difference is the Brembos can sustain repeated abuse (i.e. track environment) where the base can't.

Aside from the Brembo brakes, the Brembo packaged cars have different shocks, springs, tires, and stability control tuning. Our sport mode is a little more liberal than the base... we can do more before it intervenes.

We also sit on Pirelli PZero summer rubber vs. the base PZero Nero all seasons, which amounts to quite a big difference in grip.

09-21-2011, 01:50 PM	#743 (permalink)
FromG2Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fields of Opportunities Posts: 1,406 Drives: '12 5.0, kona, 6MT Rep Power: 18	alright, Steve, Dan, please help me out here. Should I order new or get used? This is essentially the ultimate question. Here's some facts: Used: 2011 Red candy, fully optioned out (navi, hid's, etc), 3.73, comfort, electronics, including optional 19's. But no Brembo. less than 2500 miles. New: obviously I'd get it the way I want it, which is probably Kona Blue but just with brembo and 3.73 Bottomline, going new would be about ~$2k more. Used or new? Would the 2011's be more prone to tranny issues? __________________ 2012 5.0 GT Prem, Kona Blue, 6MT, HID, Brembo, 3.73 -- Ordered: 9/20/11, Born on: 10/20/11, Delivered 11/15/11"Marilyn" GT500 mufflers/flaps, MGW shifter, FRPP K springs, BMR panhard bar, Boss coil covers, 3DC spoiler, Llumar Tint (35% and 20%), 3M ClearBra Last edited by FromG2Z; 09-21-2011 at 01:53 PM.

09-21-2011, 01:58 PM	#745 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	Only buy a "new" used car if it is exactly what you want. A $2k discount isn't that much when you are talking $30k + __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

09-21-2011, 01:58 PM	#746 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I would order new. There are so many options available it's the best way, it's hard to find one on a lot with the exact specs you want. Kona is an awesome color. Regarding the transmission, I think in general 2012 is less likely to have issues as it's the second year of the build... that's true with every car. I don't think the transmission was ever a real problem, though, but that's up for debate. Just order new with the spec you want. I would not buy the non-Brembo car unless I immediately planned on a BBK and suspension mods. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

09-21-2011, 02:03 PM	#747 (permalink)
FromG2Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Fields of Opportunities Posts: 1,406 Drives: '12 5.0, kona, 6MT Rep Power: 18	Sounds like the brembo option is the key eh? You guys must have the brembo's and love it? Have you tested without the brembos? Does it really ride softer and stop slower? What's keeping me thinking about the Red Candy used, is because it's fully loaded...... the color is neat too. But I prefer Kona tho... but could be swayed I guess... lol __________________ 2012 5.0 GT Prem, Kona Blue, 6MT, HID, Brembo, 3.73 -- Ordered: 9/20/11, Born on: 10/20/11, Delivered 11/15/11"Marilyn" GT500 mufflers/flaps, MGW shifter, FRPP K springs, BMR panhard bar, Boss coil covers, 3DC spoiler, Llumar Tint (35% and 20%), 3M ClearBra

09-21-2011, 01:53 PM	#744 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Sounds like new is a no brained to me. I don't think the car is worth it sans brembo

09-21-2011, 02:08 PM	#749 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	Was not impressed with the non-brembo option at all. Test drive an 11 right after I bought my z and it made me feel better about the z.... Then drove the brembo model...and...we know how that went. Whether you want it loaded is up to you...but I'd be suspicious of such a new car traded back in