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Red__Zed · 09-20-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

so after we move into the house... and I get back from deployment.. should I trade in the Z and get a GTR, or a 5.0hh

Auto only killed the gator for me. Almost picked one up instead of the z (would have been a huge mistake in 2010), but test drove one and was not fan.

Funny looking back, at the time I couldn't get a test drive in a wrx because of the Subaru insurance issue...but the gtr was no problem. Took it out for half a day with no questions asked....

m4a1mustang · 09-20-2011, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Auto only killed the gator for me. Almost picked one up instead of the z (would have been a huge mistake in 2010), but test drove one and was not fan.

Funny looking back, at the time I couldn't get a test drive in a wrx because of the Subaru insurance issue...but the gtr was no problem. Took it out for half a day with no questions asked....

Same here. I appreciate the numbers the GTR puts down, but overall it's not really that fun to drive for me. I prefer the traditional three pedal and 6 speed setup.

shadoquad · 09-20-2011, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Same here. I appreciate the numbers the GTR puts down, but overall it's not really that fun to drive for me. I prefer the traditional three pedal and 6 speed setup.

The numbers are spectacular.

A two-ton four-seater that can lap the world's greatest race tracks as fast as the world's premiere two-seat exotic sports cars, and it costs less than 100k.

I prefer a three pedal, too, but I agree, the numbers are awesome.

red6spd · 09-20-2011, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Auto only killed the gator for me. Almost picked one up instead of the z (would have been a huge mistake in 2010), but test drove one and was not fan.

Funny looking back, at the time I couldn't get a test drive in a wrx because of the Subaru insurance issue...but the gtr was no problem. Took it out for half a day with no questions asked....

You corssed shopped a GTR with a Z? 80-90k VS 30-40K. Dont people who consider GTR's also consider Vipers, Lambos, ETC not entry level sports cars???

Red__Zed · 09-20-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

You corssed shopped a GTR with a Z? 80-90k VS 30-40K. Dont people who consider GTR's also consider Vipers, Lambos, ETC not entry level sports cars???

I decided two entry level sports cars would be more fun than dumping all my money in a single car.

Drove a viper as well, lambo's were not in my price range, at least not in condition I'd want them in

m4a1mustang · 09-20-2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

You corssed shopped a GTR with a Z? 80-90k VS 30-40K. Dont people who consider GTR's also consider Vipers, Lambos, ETC not entry level sports cars???

Not necessarily.

Value shoppers will look at just about everything. I looked at the Cayman S and bought the 370Z instead. Something like a 25k price difference there.

I have looked at the 2012 Porsche 911 which is 3-4x the price of my 5.0.

I can't speak for Dan, but I would guess that he's like me in that he wants a good value when he buys a car so he doesn't have to take money away from other hobbies. I know I could go out and buy a new 911, but then I'd have to cut spending elsewhere and that's not really something I want to do.

FWIW, I have a client with a net worth of $20 million. Last year he called me up to do a wire. For a car. "Ok," I thought, "Lambo? Aston? Porsche?" Nope. $20k wire to cover the purchase of a Civic.

red6spd · 09-20-2011, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Not necessarily.

Value shoppers will look at just about everything. I looked at the Cayman S and bought the 370Z instead. Something like a 25k price difference there.

I have looked at the 2012 Porsche 911 which is 3-4x the price of my 5.0.

I can't speak for Dan, but I would guess that he's like me in that he wants a good value when he buys a car so he doesn't have to take money away from other hobbies. I know I could go out and buy a new 911, but then I'd have to cut spending elsewhere and that's not really something I want to do.

I can see the Cayman S vs Z shopping. The Z does everything the Porsche does for like you said alot less. But a GTR VS a Z, no comparison same with the Viper VS Z rex Stang

m4a1mustang · 09-20-2011, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

I can see the Cayman S vs Z shopping. The Z does everything the Porsche does for like you said alot less. But a GTR VS a Z, no comparison same with the Viper VS Z rex Stang

There is at least one guy on this forum that traded his GTR for a 370.

shadoquad · 09-20-2011, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Not necessarily.

Value shoppers will look at just about everything. I looked at the Cayman S and bought the 370Z instead. Something like a 25k price difference there.

I have looked at the 2012 Porsche 911 which is 3-4x the price of my 5.0.

I can't speak for Dan, but I would guess that he's like me in that he wants a good value when he buys a car so he doesn't have to take money away from other hobbies. I know I could go out and buy a new 911, but then I'd have to cut spending elsewhere and that's not really something I want to do.

FWIW, I have a client with a net worth of $20 million. Last year he called me up to do a wire. For a car. "Ok," I thought, "Lambo? Aston? Porsche?" Nope. $20k wire to cover the purchase of a Civic.

plus, car enthusiasts want to drive everything. When I was at a Mazda dealer, testing the MS3 and MX-5, the salesman said, "Wanna take out the RX-8 while you're here?" Gladly, I accepted. I didn't want it to start, and I ended up not liking it as much as the Z, but if I'd not driven it, I wouldn't have known what to think.

m4a1mustang · 09-20-2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

plus, car enthusiasts want to drive everything. When I was at a Mazda dealer, testing the MS3 and MX-5, the salesman said, "Wanna take out the RX-8 while you're here?" Gladly, I accepted. I didn't want it to start, and I ended up not liking it as much as the Z, but if I'd not driven it, I wouldn't have known what to think.

Just because you can afford a $100,000 car doesn't mean that's all you're going to look at. Enthusiasts don't discriminate based on price... they are looking for fun.

If I've got $100k to blow on a car and stumble across one for $25k that is fun as heck to drive, I'm probably going to buy it.

red6spd · 09-20-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Just because you can afford a $100,000 car doesn't mean that's all you're going to look at. Enthusiasts don't discriminate based on price... they are looking for fun.

If I've got $100k to blow on a car and stumble across one for $25k that is fun as heck to drive, I'm probably going to buy it.

I love my Z but I would have to say a GTR or a Viper is alot more fun then a Z. Dont get me wrong if I was rich I would probably still have a Z along with something crazy just because I love the Z and its a great car. People dont cross shop cars like that, when is the last time you talked to someone who was stuck between a Merc C63 AMG and a Taurus SHO?

m4a1mustang · 09-20-2011, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by red6spd

I love my Z but I would have to say a GTR or a Viper is alot more fun then a Z. Dont get me wrong if I was rich I would probably still have a Z along with something crazy just because I love the Z and its a great car. People dont cross shop cars like that, when is the last time you talked to someone who was stuck between a Merc C63 AMG and a Taurus SHO?

You'd be surprised about the fun factor; the GTR is fast and grips like hell, but the Z feels more nimble and the driver feels more involved. To me, the Z was way more fun than the GTR.

Viper, I don't know. It's almost got too much power for the street; on track it'd be a ball, though.

Someone looking at a Merc C63 AMG is usually after performance with status, so you're right, they aren't going to cross shop with a SHO.

But when you're talking sports cars, enthusiast shoppers care more about fun than anything else.

Red__Zed · 09-20-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Not necessarily.

Value shoppers will look at just about everything. I looked at the Cayman S and bought the 370Z instead. Something like a 25k price difference there.

I have looked at the 2012 Porsche 911 which is 3-4x the price of my 5.0.

I can't speak for Dan, but I would guess that he's like me in that he wants a good value when he buys a car so he doesn't have to take money away from other hobbies. I know I could go out and buy a new 911, but then I'd have to cut spending elsewhere and that's not really something I want to do.

FWIW, I have a client with a net worth of $20 million. Last year he called me up to do a wire. For a car. "Ok," I thought, "Lambo? Aston? Porsche?" Nope. $20k wire to cover the purchase of a Civic.

I think we are pretty similar in that respect...I'm not looking to waste huge amounts of money on a car, but I'll do it if it makes sense. Right now
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