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Red__Zed · 09-19-2011, 09:01 AM

It is cyclical. Honda/toyota made shitty cars, then had to overreach to make their name. Once it was made, they rested on it...allowing the competition to catch up...

...sound familiar?

Nissan didn't build up their name quite as well as Honda did in the past, and so they're having to work now to get on that level.

I just hope Honda and Toyota wake up before they get to the point the American manufacturers had been.

m4a1mustang · 09-19-2011, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

It is cyclical. Honda/toyota made shitty cars, then had to overreach to make their name. Once it was made, they rested on it...allowing the competition to catch up...

...sound familiar?

Nissan didn't build up their name quite as well as Honda did in the past, and so they're having to work now to get on that level.

I just hope Honda and Toyota wake up before they get to the point the American manufacturers had been.

Red__Zed · 09-19-2011, 09:19 AM

The wrx sells great, but Subaru literally makes nothing on the car. With the evo dead, the price will likely jump up significantly, or the car will stagnate..maybe both. Step one is updating the impreza and not the performance trims for next year....

The fr86 is not looking good either. Toyota stopped footing it's half of the bill for the turbo version, so Subaru officially killed the development...car is gonna be a wimp... Less power than even an s2000

shadoquad · 09-19-2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The wrx sells great, but Subaru literally makes nothing on the car. With the evo dead, the price will likely jump up significantly, or the car will stagnate..maybe both. Step one is updating the impreza and not the performance trims for next year....

The fr86 is not looking good either. Toyota stopped footing it's half of the bill for the turbo version, so Subaru officially killed the development...car is gonna be a wimp... Less power than even an s2000

I hadn't heard all that about the FT-86, but we'll have to wait and see if it's true.

Screwbaloo might not make much on the WRX, but it gives them market presence with males. It is the lone car that keeps their lineup from joining volvo in the "woman-only" market. VW is attempting to creep out of that by manning up the Beetle and introducing an expensive Golf R.

Red__Zed · 09-19-2011, 09:29 AM

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I hadn't heard all that about the FT-86, but we'll have to wait and see if it's true.

Screwbaloo might not make much on the WRX, but it gives them market presence with males. It is the lone car that keeps their lineup from joining volvo in the "woman-only" market. VW is attempting to creep out of that by manning up the Beetle and introducing an expensive Golf R.

Turbo killoff was verified by Subaru.

They'll keep producing the wrx/Sti through 2013 at least. They have enough stock built up that they have to. If it really sells next year, they may update to follow the impreza, but as it sits...it looks like they are trying to offload parts to kill the wrx.

shadoquad · 09-19-2011, 09:31 AM

So, we're heading into the next era of no affordable Japanese performance?

The late 90's and early 00's was rough. booooo

Red__Zed · 09-19-2011, 09:33 AM

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So, we're heading into the next era of no affordable Japanese performance?

The late 90's and early 00's was rough. booooo

Blasphemy!
Early 2000's had the greatest production roadster of all time

m4a1mustang · 09-19-2011, 09:34 AM

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Blasphemy!
Early 2000's had the greatest production roadster of all time

The Toyota MR2, right?

Red__Zed · 09-19-2011, 09:38 AM

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The Toyota MR2, right?

shadoquad · 09-19-2011, 09:37 AM

lol the Miata is a stud. Stop messing with the best doors in the business.

Red__Zed · 09-19-2011, 09:56 AM

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lol the Miata is a stud. Stop messing with the best doors in the business.

The car I'm thinking of has an engine made entirely of miata doors.

b1adesofcha0s · 09-19-2011, 11:32 AM

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The car I'm thinking of has an engine made entirely of miata doors.

Sounds like an unstoppable and indestructible machine of awesome power!

m4a1mustang · 09-19-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Sounds like an unstoppable and indestructible machine of awesome power!

Red__Zed · 09-19-2011, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Sounds like an unstoppable and indestructible machine of awesome power!

I heard you could slap a massively huge turbo on with few issues...at least until the point where the motor actually ate a turbo.

To get around this, many people swapped in inferior parts to tame the engine.

Lug · 09-19-2011, 11:38 AM

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Sounds like an unstoppable and indestructible machine of awesome power!

....fit to even drive Chuck Norris around town!

09-19-2011, 09:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	It is cyclical. Honda/toyota made shitty cars, then had to overreach to make their name. Once it was made, they rested on it...allowing the competition to catch up... ...sound familiar? Nissan didn't build up their name quite as well as Honda did in the past, and so they're having to work now to get on that level. I just hope Honda and Toyota wake up before they get to the point the American manufacturers had been.

09-19-2011, 09:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
Red__Zed A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: window seat Posts: 28,940 Drives: Mostly on two wheels Rep Power: 120	The wrx sells great, but Subaru literally makes nothing on the car. With the evo dead, the price will likely jump up significantly, or the car will stagnate..maybe both. Step one is updating the impreza and not the performance trims for next year.... The fr86 is not looking good either. Toyota stopped footing it's half of the bill for the turbo version, so Subaru officially killed the development...car is gonna be a wimp... Less power than even an s2000

09-19-2011, 09:31 AM	#6 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	So, we're heading into the next era of no affordable Japanese performance? The late 90's and early 00's was rough. booooo

09-19-2011, 09:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	lol the Miata is a stud. Stop messing with the best doors in the business.