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Old 09-20-2011, 09:54 AM   #406 (permalink)
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Auto only killed the gator for me. Almost picked one up instead of the z (would have been a huge mistake in 2010), but test drove one and was not fan.

Funny looking back, at the time I couldn't get a test drive in a wrx because of the Subaru insurance issue...but the gtr was no problem. Took it out for half a day with no questions asked....


You corssed shopped a GTR with a Z? 80-90k VS 30-40K. Dont people who consider GTR's also consider Vipers, Lambos, ETC not entry level sports cars???
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Even though duel clutches are automatics. They'd be the only autos that I'd consider.
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You corssed shopped a GTR with a Z? 80-90k VS 30-40K. Dont people who consider GTR's also consider Vipers, Lambos, ETC not entry level sports cars???
I decided two entry level sports cars would be more fun than dumping all my money in a single car.

Drove a viper as well, lambo's were not in my price range, at least not in condition I'd want them in
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Your a pretty modest guy. You can afford GTR's Vipers used Lambos but ended up with a Z a Rex and now a Stang.
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You corssed shopped a GTR with a Z? 80-90k VS 30-40K. Dont people who consider GTR's also consider Vipers, Lambos, ETC not entry level sports cars???
Not necessarily.

Value shoppers will look at just about everything. I looked at the Cayman S and bought the 370Z instead. Something like a 25k price difference there.

I have looked at the 2012 Porsche 911 which is 3-4x the price of my 5.0.

I can't speak for Dan, but I would guess that he's like me in that he wants a good value when he buys a car so he doesn't have to take money away from other hobbies. I know I could go out and buy a new 911, but then I'd have to cut spending elsewhere and that's not really something I want to do.

FWIW, I have a client with a net worth of $20 million. Last year he called me up to do a wire. For a car. "Ok," I thought, "Lambo? Aston? Porsche?" Nope. $20k wire to cover the purchase of a Civic.
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Not necessarily.

Value shoppers will look at just about everything. I looked at the Cayman S and bought the 370Z instead. Something like a 25k price difference there.

I have looked at the 2012 Porsche 911 which is 3-4x the price of my 5.0.

I can't speak for Dan, but I would guess that he's like me in that he wants a good value when he buys a car so he doesn't have to take money away from other hobbies. I know I could go out and buy a new 911, but then I'd have to cut spending elsewhere and that's not really something I want to do.


I can see the Cayman S vs Z shopping. The Z does everything the Porsche does for like you said alot less. But a GTR VS a Z, no comparison same with the Viper VS Z rex Stang
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Not necessarily.

Value shoppers will look at just about everything. I looked at the Cayman S and bought the 370Z instead. Something like a 25k price difference there.

I have looked at the 2012 Porsche 911 which is 3-4x the price of my 5.0.

I can't speak for Dan, but I would guess that he's like me in that he wants a good value when he buys a car so he doesn't have to take money away from other hobbies. I know I could go out and buy a new 911, but then I'd have to cut spending elsewhere and that's not really something I want to do.

FWIW, I have a client with a net worth of $20 million. Last year he called me up to do a wire. For a car. "Ok," I thought, "Lambo? Aston? Porsche?" Nope. $20k wire to cover the purchase of a Civic.
plus, car enthusiasts want to drive everything. When I was at a Mazda dealer, testing the MS3 and MX-5, the salesman said, "Wanna take out the RX-8 while you're here?" Gladly, I accepted. I didn't want it to start, and I ended up not liking it as much as the Z, but if I'd not driven it, I wouldn't have known what to think.
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I can see the Cayman S vs Z shopping. The Z does everything the Porsche does for like you said alot less. But a GTR VS a Z, no comparison same with the Viper VS Z rex Stang
There is at least one guy on this forum that traded his GTR for a 370.
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Not necessarily.

Value shoppers will look at just about everything. I looked at the Cayman S and bought the 370Z instead. Something like a 25k price difference there.

I have looked at the 2012 Porsche 911 which is 3-4x the price of my 5.0.

I can't speak for Dan, but I would guess that he's like me in that he wants a good value when he buys a car so he doesn't have to take money away from other hobbies. I know I could go out and buy a new 911, but then I'd have to cut spending elsewhere and that's not really something I want to do.

FWIW, I have a client with a net worth of $20 million. Last year he called me up to do a wire. For a car. "Ok," I thought, "Lambo? Aston? Porsche?" Nope. $20k wire to cover the purchase of a Civic.

I think we are pretty similar in that respect...I'm not looking to waste huge amounts of money on a car, but I'll do it if it makes sense. Right now
I have other priorities, like traveling and building my collection of polite tea party guests
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Your a pretty modest guy. You can afford GTR's Vipers used Lambos but ended up with a Z a Rex and now a Stang.
Life's not about buying the most expensive things you can afford.
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plus, car enthusiasts want to drive everything. When I was at a Mazda dealer, testing the MS3 and MX-5, the salesman said, "Wanna take out the RX-8 while you're here?" Gladly, I accepted. I didn't want it to start, and I ended up not liking it as much as the Z, but if I'd not driven it, I wouldn't have known what to think.


Just because you can afford a $100,000 car doesn't mean that's all you're going to look at. Enthusiasts don't discriminate based on price... they are looking for fun.

If I've got $100k to blow on a car and stumble across one for $25k that is fun as heck to drive, I'm probably going to buy it.
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I think we are pretty similar in that respect...I'm not looking to waste huge amounts of money on a car, but I'll do it if it makes sense. Right now
I have other priorities, like traveling and building my collection of polite tea party guests
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Life's not about buying the most expensive things you can afford.


I seek to maximize the fun/$ ratio.

Example: Why pay $500/hr for a high dollar hooker when I could get shado all night for just one pumpkin spice latte?
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My rolex begs to differ.
If that's what fulfills you, have at it. I happened to feel my omega was cooler
...which is basically like buying a fit instead of a gtr...
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