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m4a1mustang · 02-02-2012, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

I just wanted to say how unreal the feeling is to see people talking about Watts linkages on a performance car in the year 2012. Perhaps the next gen Mustang will have people discussing which carburettor to maximize horsepower

*runs away and puts flame shield on*

This has been an exciting day for you! First you learn about toe and then you learn what a Watts Link is! Thank goodness for Wikipedia!

Red__Zed · 02-02-2012, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

I just wanted to say how unreal the feeling is to see people talking about Watts linkages on a performance car in the year 2012. Perhaps the next gen Mustang will have people discussing which carburettor to maximize horsepower

*runs away and puts flame shield on*

Crazy, right? Maybe you can troll the corvette thread about how much better they could be with an overhead cam.

ihatepotholes · 02-02-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I think the Fays2 is probably the better unit.. It's a little heavier than the Steeda unit but it doesn't compromise clearance on the passenger side like the Steeda does. It's also what, $400 less?

Mine should be here either Friday or Monday. Planning on installing it next Friday.

who are you ordering from? Strano?

keep me updated, write a review here

m4a1mustang · 02-02-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ihatepotholes

who are you ordering from? Strano?

keep me updated, write a review here

Sam is the man.

I'll definitely let you know how it turns out.

m4a1mustang · 02-02-2012, 11:24 AM

Both are less important than skid pad when it comes to handling, of course. That's why race teams ignore dynamic toe completely and just try to maximize their skidpad G's.

/sarcasm

m4a1mustang · 02-02-2012, 11:49 AM

An olive branch...

If you give credit where credit is due, I'll drop it forever.

Sibze · 02-02-2012, 11:54 AM

I love the mustang don't get me wrong but the M3, IS-F and C63 are different cars...

ihatepotholes · 02-02-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sibze

I love the mustang don't get me wrong but the M3, IS-F and C63 are different cars...

of course they are a lot more luxurious... but if you solely look at the performance, mustang matches up quite well.

6MT · 02-02-2012, 12:06 PM

I can see where this is headed... IBTL

ZMan8 · 02-02-2012, 12:34 PM

at the bickering

Anyway, mustang gents, can you comment on the intangibles with the mustang: how is Ford's service, does it really feel too big, is the back seat even functional, because when I sit in the camaro there is no leg room behind me

Also hows the additional costs (oil changes, general maintance, performance parts).

I have the 5.0 in consideration as an addition to the stable

*

(*note: add to collection, not to replace the Z)

m4a1mustang · 02-02-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

at the bickering

Anyway, mustang gents, can you comment on the intangibles with the mustang: how is Ford's service, does it really feel too big, is the back seat even functional, because when I sit in the camaro there is no leg room behind me

Also hows the additional costs (oil changes, general maintance, performance parts).

I have the 5.0 in consideration as an addition to the stable

*

(*note: add to collection, not to replace the Z)

I don't think it's too big. But it does take a while to get used to coming from the Z.

Back seats are usable for kids. An adult can fit back there if necessary, but not recommended.

Service is pretty good. Most of the Mustang forums have Ford reps attached to them so if you ever do need something serviced you can PM your Ford rep and he or she will set everything up for you and make sure it's tracked by customer care, not just the dealership.

Maintenance cost... roughly the same as the Z. Depending on what oil you use an oil change could be more expensive with the 5.0 since it takes 8 quarts.

Performance parts are on par with the Z in terms of how much the part itself costs. But the HP/$ ratio is much better with the 5.0. An intake + tune can get you ~35whp, for example and conventional bolt-ons are enough to get you above 430whp.

ZMan8 · 02-02-2012, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I don't think it's too big. But it does take a while to get used to coming from the Z.

Back seats are usable for kids. An adult can fit back there if necessary, but not recommended.

Service is pretty good. Most of the Mustang forums have Ford reps attached to them so if you ever do need something serviced you can PM your Ford rep and he or she will set everything up for you and make sure it's tracked by customer care, not just the dealership.

Maintenance cost... roughly the same as the Z. Depending on what oil you use an oil change could be more expensive with the 5.0 since it takes 8 quarts.

Performance parts are on par with the Z in terms of how much the part itself costs. But the HP/$ ratio is much better with the 5.0. An intake + tune can get you ~35whp, for example and conventional bolt-ons are enough to get you above 430whp.

Thanks!

Back seat wouldn't be used really often, but Im glad at least kids can fit there. For some reason I always had issues with cars that have pointless back seats (porsche) that can fit a laptop bag at most.

Yeah i heard about the HP/$ is better. That is interesting that mods cost similar since I would imagine it's a popular fomestic car so there should be more suppliers with parts (competition drives costs down)

m4a1mustang · 02-02-2012, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

Thanks!

Back seat wouldn't be used really often, but Im glad at least kids can fit there. For some reason I always had issues with cars that have pointless back seats (porsche) that can fit a laptop bag at most.

Yeah i heard about the HP/$ is better. That is interesting that mods cost similar since I would imagine it's a popular fomestic car so there should be more suppliers with parts (competition drives costs down)

Yeah it really depends. Some parts are cheaper some aren't.

I did pay only $600 for my Konis vs. around $850-900 for the Z. So that's nice.

Red__Zed · 02-02-2012, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

Thanks!

Back seat wouldn't be used really often, but Im glad at least kids can fit there. For some reason I always had issues with cars that have pointless back seats (porsche) that can fit a laptop bag at most.

Yeah i heard about the HP/$ is better. That is interesting that mods cost similar since I would imagine it's a popular fomestic car so there should be more suppliers with parts (competition drives costs down)

I actually have had to ride in the backseat for a couple long drives. Like Steve said, not recommended, but possible.

The parts are all still in very high demand, which keeps some of the prices up. With manufacturing slowed down, etc....there's more demand than there are parts

nuTinmuch · 02-02-2012, 12:42 PM

I never actually felt the Mustang was too big, really (with the exception of the seats).

The Camaro? That's a different story.

But the Mustang felt pretty okay. It's not a small car, but it isn't a boat, either. It is what it is.

Regardless... I don't understand why these arguments come up, especially when they tend to dive into topics that are clearly subjective. It seems like it would be just as easy to say "I didn't like the car, so I'm not buying it" -- but instead we always go into this big discussions about things that probably don't actually matter to anyone in reality.

02-02-2012, 11:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
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02-02-2012, 11:49 AM	#6 (permalink)
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ZMan8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,844 Drives: 10 370z 40th M6 Rep Power: 659	at the bickering Anyway, mustang gents, can you comment on the intangibles with the mustang: how is Ford's service, does it really feel too big, is the back seat even functional, because when I sit in the camaro there is no leg room behind me Also hows the additional costs (oil changes, general maintance, performance parts). I have the 5.0 in consideration as an addition to the stable * (*note: add to collection, not to replace the Z) __________________ 2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT \| Fast Intentions \| Swift Springs \| SPC \| Z1Motorsports \| JWM \| Redline Oils \| 35% Window Tint 2015 Mazda6 \| 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee

02-02-2012, 12:42 PM	#15 (permalink)
nuTinmuch A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,092 Drives: PG 7AT 370Z Rep Power: 18	I never actually felt the Mustang was too big, really (with the exception of the seats). The Camaro? That's a different story. But the Mustang felt pretty okay. It's not a small car, but it isn't a boat, either. It is what it is. Regardless... I don't understand why these arguments come up, especially when they tend to dive into topics that are clearly subjective. It seems like it would be just as easy to say "I didn't like the car, so I'm not buying it" -- but instead we always go into this big discussions about things that probably don't actually matter to anyone in reality. __________________ nuTinmuch! -- Platinum Graphite 370Z -- Check out my Gallery thread here!

02-02-2012, 11:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 63	I love the mustang don't get me wrong but the M3, IS-F and C63 are different cars...

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