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shadoquad · 10-07-2011, 10:00 AM

I think MT is worth the pain in traffic.

I prefer it for spirited drives, and I prefer the control I have during inclement weather. Even with paddle shifters, I don't feel as much control with an auto. Because with a manual, I can just pop it out of gear if I'm unsure what to do for a split second. Just my personal pref.

m4a1mustang · 10-07-2011, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I think MT is worth the pain in traffic.

I prefer it for spirited drives, and I prefer the control I have during inclement weather. Even with paddle shifters, I don't feel as much control with an auto. Because with a manual, I can just pop it out of gear if I'm unsure what to do for a split second. Just my personal pref.

You need to drive a good DCT then. GTR, Porsche PDK, etc.

I do like MT, but in a daily driver I want the convenience of AT. DCT gives you best of both worlds... lightening fast shifts, great control, and of course convenience in traffic.

Red__Zed · 10-07-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I think MT is worth the pain in traffic.

I prefer it for spirited drives, and I prefer the control I have during inclement weather. Even with paddle shifters, I don't feel as much control with an auto. Because with a manual, I can just pop it out of gear if I'm unsure what to do for a split second. Just my personal pref.

I plan to keep a mt car as well. Maybe 2 mts

shadoquad · 10-07-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You need to drive a good DCT then. GTR, Porsche PDK, etc.

I do like MT, but in a daily driver I want the convenience of AT. DCT gives you best of both worlds... lightening fast shifts, great control, and of course convenience in traffic.

I already explained it. "Lightning fast shifts" has drawbacks, too. I sometimes like to dither over my next gear. Because I have that 1-2 second delay, I can analyze the road ahead and pop it into the proper gear. If I know the gear ahead of time, I can just plow it in without a thought.

Either way, that clutch pedal and rowing gears will always be more fun for me than letting a computer do it. And I've sat in heavy traffic for hours. While there's some discomfort, that usually goes away within minutes of reaching my destination. I really don't think driving a manual in heavy traffic is all that unpleasant. It can be annoying, but it is temporary.

m4a1mustang · 10-07-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

I already explained it. "Lightning fast shifts" has drawbacks, too. I sometimes like to dither over my next gear. Because I have that 1-2 second delay, I can analyze the road ahead and pop it into the proper gear. If I know the gear ahead of time, I can just plow it in without a thought.

Either way, that clutch pedal and rowing gears will always be more fun for me than letting a computer do it. And I've sat in heavy traffic for hours. While there's some discomfort, that usually goes away within minutes of reaching my destination. I really don't think driving a manual in heavy traffic is all that unpleasant. It can be annoying, but it is temporary.

You should know the gear you are going to shift to before you begin to do it. It shouldn't take you 1-2 seconds to analyze whilst out of gear.

The one good thing about the 5.0 in traffic is that it's got so much torque I can leave it in 5th gear and just keep it there for my whole commute. Even when stopped.

shadoquad · 10-07-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

You should know the gear you are going to shift to before you begin to do it. It shouldn't take you 1-2 seconds to analyze whilst out of gear.

I should, but I don't always. And why should I anyway? If I shift into the wrong gear, I'll just be shifting back anyway, but that process may take 5 seconds, all told. I'd rather take a self-caused delay than a misshift.

I've never been big on the "always be in gear" philosophy. I think it's ok to drift in neutral as long as you're in control of the vehicle.

theDreamer · 10-07-2011, 10:28 AM

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m4a1mustang · 10-07-2011, 10:33 AM

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I should, but I don't always. And why should I anyway? If I shift into the wrong gear, I'll just be shifting back anyway, but that process may take 5 seconds, all told. I'd rather take a self-caused delay than a misshift.

I've never been big on the "always be in gear" philosophy. I think it's ok to drift in neutral as long as you're in control of the vehicle.

I coast SOMETIMES, but I'm a believer in always being in gear, and in the power band. I want to be able to move right away if I need to. I would never coast in traffic, for instance.

Red__Zed · 10-07-2011, 10:35 AM

Wonder how much work swapping gauges would be

Red__Zed · 10-07-2011, 10:38 AM

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I coast SOMETIMES, but I'm a believer in always being in gear, and in the power band. I want to be able to move right away if I need to. I would never coast in traffic, for instance.

Not to mention that clutch in coasting brings the mainshaft bearing a little closer to seizing every time....

shadoquad · 10-07-2011, 10:40 AM

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I coast SOMETIMES, but I'm a believer in always being in gear, and in the power band. I want to be able to move right away if I need to. I would never coast in traffic, for instance.

I almost never fully downshift when slowing to a stop. And I may coast in traffic, but only if the foot is over the clutch, hand on shifter, ready to shift.

I'm a defensive driver. There's almost never a need for me to accelerate right away at this vehicle's limit.

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Not to mention that clutch in coasting brings the mainshaft bearing a little closer to seizing every time....

I don't hold the clutch in while coasting if it's for any significant amount of time. If I'm coasting to a stop, car in neutral, clutch out. If I'm dithering on a shift, again, that's maybe a second or two.

GZ3 · 10-07-2011, 11:40 AM

Just installed richmond 3.9 gears and ford K springs...WOW...the stance is great and body roll is almost non existant...the gears made HUGE diff coming from 3.31

My main reason for going 3.9 is not having to shift into 5th down the 1/4....410 were pretty nasty....but WOW the car is BEASTLY now

m4a1mustang · 10-07-2011, 11:41 AM

One day I will have enough tire on the car to make use of the 3.73s.

Red__Zed · 10-07-2011, 11:42 AM

3.9s holy ****

GZ3 · 10-07-2011, 11:47 AM

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One day I will have enough tire on the car to make use of the 3.73s.

what do you run now

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shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	I think MT is worth the pain in traffic. I prefer it for spirited drives, and I prefer the control I have during inclement weather. Even with paddle shifters, I don't feel as much control with an auto. Because with a manual, I can just pop it out of gear if I'm unsure what to do for a split second. Just my personal pref.

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