opinions on 2011 Subaru STI

shadoquad · 09-06-2011, 09:52 AM

AWD itself does not make for a better winter car. Ground clearance is an underappreciated part of that equation. And performance AWD cars are low and usually shift most of the power to the rear wheels anyway. Get all-season tires or a set of winter tires/rims. The Z comes with summer tires stock. It still won't handle winter as well as the STI, but not terrible. Cheaper investment than a new car.

red6spd · 09-06-2011, 11:29 AM

As much as I dont want to I have to agree with Red_Zed on the engine faliure the Spun Bearings and crap went away in 09. It was just a batch of cars. Sucks but Subaru made good and fixed them. My friend has an 09 Rex it is a great car. My mom has had 2 Foresters and the new one is an XT. There very reliable and if god forbid something happen to my Z (stolen, toatled etc) I would probably pick up the new STI Sedan. About as fast as the Z maybe a tad slower but tuning is endless and it looks so sexy.

Red370 · 09-06-2011, 11:42 AM

Wouldnt go so far as to say the car is sexy, its average compared to the sleek lines of the Z, would probably be slightly more attractive if they scrapped that HORRENDOUS wing. They also need to get with the program and switch to a front mount intercooler, heat soak with those top mounts is ridiculous.

phelan · 09-06-2011, 12:39 PM

I don't get it. Why do people even consider the looks of the Subaru as really, really important? They're universally regarded as fairly..ahem...ugly looking cars. They're outlandish and polarizing, especially when you dump that humongous wing on top of it...but I still love them

If you wanted the good looks, stick with the Z, or save up for a German car.

Also, ringland failures were a huge issue in '08, but since there's only been a few isolated cases. Like Zed said, most occur when someone is really, really pushing their car. Until then, Subies have generally been pretty reliable.

cossie, don't underestimate the effect Auto-X can have on a car. I think Auto-X is actually more punishing than a track day, just because of the extreme technical nature of the courses, and the driver is typically in the really high RPM ranges, or constantly adjusting / shifting / etc.

shadoquad · 09-06-2011, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan

I don't get it. Why do people even consider the looks of the Subaru as really, really important? They're universally regarded as fairly..ahem...ugly looking cars. They're outlandish and polarizing, especially when you dump that humongous wing on top of it...but I still love them

Scoobies aren't the prettiest cars out there. But they look like a mean hot hatch/sedan, and they back all that up with performance.

nuTinmuch · 09-07-2011, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan

I don't get it. Why do people even consider the looks of the Subaru as really, really important? They're universally regarded as fairly..ahem...ugly looking cars. They're outlandish and polarizing, especially when you dump that humongous wing on top of it...but I still love them

If you wanted the good looks, stick with the Z, or save up for a German car.

Also, ringland failures were a huge issue in '08, but since there's only been a few isolated cases. Like Zed said, most occur when someone is really, really pushing their car. Until then, Subies have generally been pretty reliable.

cossie, don't underestimate the effect Auto-X can have on a car. I think Auto-X is actually more punishing than a track day, just because of the extreme technical nature of the courses, and the driver is typically in the really high RPM ranges, or constantly adjusting / shifting / etc.

I actually love how the wagon and sedan look! Sure, it isn't sleek like the Z is, but I think it is pretty awesome.

I still sort of want one.

kenchan · 09-07-2011, 11:17 AM

i kinda like their hatch version better but it comes with some crazy premium these days, right?

phelan · 09-07-2011, 11:21 AM

three dealerships i have gone to have asked 2k OVER sticker due to their "rarity".

pfffffft!

nuTinmuch · 09-07-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

three dealerships i have gone to have asked 2k OVER sticker due to their "rarity".

pfffffft!

whaaaaaaaaaaat?

You can get one for a good amount under invoice here.

Sort of odd, though. You'd think the price would be lower in a place where you never get snow.

Red__Zed · 09-07-2011, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

whaaaaaaaaaaat?

You can get one for a good amount under invoice here.

Sort of odd, though. You'd think the price would be lower in a place where you never get snow.

Under invoice? Skepticalhippo.nef

cossie1600 · 09-07-2011, 01:14 PM

Wait till December, Subaru loves running HUGE sales around that time. My friend got his for $8K under sticker. It was like $29900 plus tax

phelan · 09-07-2011, 01:17 PM

they LOVED running huge sales. dealerships right now are ******** and upcharging everything. natural disaster fee. pfft.

Red__Zed · 09-07-2011, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phelan

they LOVED running huge sales. dealerships right now are ******** and upcharging everything. natural disaster fee. pfft.

This.

shadoquad · 09-07-2011, 01:25 PM

Cossie has a good point, though. December is a fantastic time to try for a deal. They're looking to offload whatever's left on the lot so they don't have to pay taxes on it.

Elysium · 09-07-2011, 01:59 PM

I have a 2008 Sti as a daily driver and I love it. You can't beat the practicality of a 5 door hatch with awd for everyday use and I still take it to the track once in a while too.

I think the 2011 sedan is really hot and a nicer looking car than the hatch but obviously less practical.

09-06-2011, 11:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	As much as I dont want to I have to agree with Red_Zed on the engine faliure the Spun Bearings and crap went away in 09. It was just a batch of cars. Sucks but Subaru made good and fixed them. My friend has an 09 Rex it is a great car. My mom has had 2 Foresters and the new one is an XT. There very reliable and if god forbid something happen to my Z (stolen, toatled etc) I would probably pick up the new STI Sedan. About as fast as the Z maybe a tad slower but tuning is endless and it looks so sexy. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

09-06-2011, 11:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
Red370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Posts: 4,391 Drives: your mom to church Rep Power: 296	Wouldnt go so far as to say the car is sexy, its average compared to the sleek lines of the Z, would probably be slightly more attractive if they scrapped that HORRENDOUS wing. They also need to get with the program and switch to a front mount intercooler, heat soak with those top mounts is ridiculous. __________________ 2011 Mustang 5.0 \| 3.55's \| Lethal Performance off road H-Pipe \| Magnaflow Muffler Delete \| JLT CAI/Bama tuned 417whp/ 404 ft/lbs

09-06-2011, 12:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 39 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	I don't get it. Why do people even consider the looks of the Subaru as really, really important? They're universally regarded as fairly..ahem...ugly looking cars. They're outlandish and polarizing, especially when you dump that humongous wing on top of it...but I still love them If you wanted the good looks, stick with the Z, or save up for a German car. Also, ringland failures were a huge issue in '08, but since there's only been a few isolated cases. Like Zed said, most occur when someone is really, really pushing their car. Until then, Subies have generally been pretty reliable. cossie, don't underestimate the effect Auto-X can have on a car. I think Auto-X is actually more punishing than a track day, just because of the extreme technical nature of the courses, and the driver is typically in the really high RPM ranges, or constantly adjusting / shifting / etc. __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

09-07-2011, 11:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 39 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	three dealerships i have gone to have asked 2k OVER sticker due to their "rarity". pfffffft! __________________ 凛 ('Rin') - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

09-07-2011, 01:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
phelan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Age: 39 Posts: 9,513 Drives: Scoobaroo Rep Power: 3406	they LOVED running huge sales. dealerships right now are ****** and upcharging everything. natural disaster fee. pfft. __________________ 凛 ('Rin')** - 2009 Nissan 370Z With silence comes peace. With peace comes freedom. With freedom comes silence.

09-06-2011, 09:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	AWD itself does not make for a better winter car. Ground clearance is an underappreciated part of that equation. And performance AWD cars are low and usually shift most of the power to the rear wheels anyway. Get all-season tires or a set of winter tires/rims. The Z comes with summer tires stock. It still won't handle winter as well as the STI, but not terrible. Cheaper investment than a new car.

09-07-2011, 11:17 AM	#7 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	i kinda like their hatch version better but it comes with some crazy premium these days, right?

09-07-2011, 01:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	Wait till December, Subaru loves running HUGE sales around that time. My friend got his for $8K under sticker. It was like $29900 plus tax

09-07-2011, 01:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	Cossie has a good point, though. December is a fantastic time to try for a deal. They're looking to offload whatever's left on the lot so they don't have to pay taxes on it.

09-07-2011, 01:59 PM	#15 (permalink)
Elysium Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Ontario Posts: 133 Drives: 2013 GT-R, 2008 Sti Rep Power: 15	I have a 2008 Sti as a daily driver and I love it. You can't beat the practicality of a 5 door hatch with awd for everyday use and I still take it to the track once in a while too. I think the 2011 sedan is really hot and a nicer looking car than the hatch but obviously less practical. __________________ 2013 GT-R black edition.....with mods to come 2010 370Z stillen supercharged.....will be missed

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