Question about the F1 sound

oleg · 08-15-2011, 04:57 AM

Ive been trying to search for the answer but i haven't come up with the exact answer yet. What makes the cars sound high pitched like f1 cars, some say its a high revving engine yet ive seen similar displacement engines with the same red line and same amount of cylinders sound completely opposite. Can someone please clarify this one for me and also tell me what engines can produce that sound.

the_student · 08-15-2011, 05:22 AM

Redline for F1 cars is at 18,000 rpm and if you multiply that by 8 cylinders going out through straight pipes... You get amazing sound!

TreeSemdyZee · 08-15-2011, 07:10 AM

Where are you finding engines with similar displacement (2.4liter) with similar revs (18,000)?

oleg · 08-15-2011, 02:12 PM

I didn't mean engines similar to f1 cars but For example an f430 engine red lines at 8500k it's a 4.3L and a v8, sounds like an f1 when flies by. A BMW m3 engine is a v8 that red lines at 8300k I believe with 4.0L but sounds nothing like an f1.

red6spd · 08-15-2011, 02:22 PM

Just run open exhaust ports.

CBRich · 08-15-2011, 04:40 PM

In production vehicles the exhaust setup creates a lot of the sound. F1 cars all sound the way they do because of the super high revs and open exhaust. They're all the same setup so they sound the same.

Cmike2780 · 08-15-2011, 04:49 PM

It's the high rev's, cylinders, engine components, head design, transmission, exhaust setup etc that give it that sound. F-1 cars are on a whole other planet when it comes to drivetrain component. I personally think the LF-A is the closest production car to sound like an F-1 car.

shadoquad · 08-15-2011, 04:52 PM

Doesn't sound like an F1 car to me.

ImportConvert · 08-15-2011, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad

Doesn't sound like an F1 car to me.

The F430 sounds like an F1 car at 8500 rpm with an open exhaust to me

As stated, EVERYTHING about an engine determines how it sounds, including the exhaust on production cars. This is why a 351 sounds like a mean drum-roll and an LS1 (346ci) sounds like a machine-gun in a trashcan.

Mike@AMPerformance · 08-15-2011, 05:51 PM

Firing order, crankpin arrangement (plane), valve arrangement, just to name a few not mentioned.

Mike

oleg · 08-15-2011, 08:28 PM

So basically you can't make your engine sound like that unless it comes from factory like that?

b1adesofcha0s · 08-15-2011, 09:30 PM

So whose going to be the first to do an F1 engine swap?

TreeSemdyZee · 08-15-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

So whose going to be the first to do an F1 engine swap?

That would be so cool, but I don't want to have to clean my shorts every time I go for a drive.

oleg · 08-16-2011, 01:46 AM

since a part of it is engine revving high, how can you make the engine rev higher, as in past 8500k for the Z. Im sure you would need new engine parts to be able to handle that. Also does the speed of the rev matter to the sound at all or no?

ImportConvert · 08-16-2011, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

So whose going to be the first to do an F1 engine swap?

Why would anyone want an F1 engine is my question. It would perform like *** anywhere but the circle-track.

08-15-2011, 04:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
oleg Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 321 Drives: 2011 370z 6mt sp Rep Power: 14	Question about the F1 sound Ive been trying to search for the answer but i haven't come up with the exact answer yet. What makes the cars sound high pitched like f1 cars, some say its a high revving engine yet ive seen similar displacement engines with the same red line and same amount of cylinders sound completely opposite. Can someone please clarify this one for me and also tell me what engines can produce that sound.

08-15-2011, 05:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
the_student Track Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: bay area Posts: 522 Drives: '13 LE 4runner Rep Power: 17	Redline for F1 cars is at 18,000 rpm and if you multiply that by 8 cylinders going out through straight pipes... You get amazing sound! __________________ 2009 370Z PW 6MT Base/Sport/KW/PWJDM/HKS...RIP. 2011 370Z PW 6MT Base/Sport...KW V3/HKS/TE37 SL/Clear Bra

08-15-2011, 02:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
red6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 3,277 Drives: 2010 Z Coupe M6 SPT Rep Power: 21	Just run open exhaust ports. __________________ 2010 Base+Sport 6spd: Stillen G3, FI Non-Resonated CBE, FI Non-Resonated Test Pipes, UpRev Tuned, Custom 24R Oil Cooler, JDM Rear Fog-OEM Harness. ???Whp ???WTQ (Will find out come spring time)

08-15-2011, 04:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	It's the high rev's, cylinders, engine components, head design, transmission, exhaust setup etc that give it that sound. F-1 cars are on a whole other planet when it comes to drivetrain component. I personally think the LF-A is the closest production car to sound like an F-1 car. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

08-15-2011, 05:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mike@AMPerformance Base Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 64 Drives: 370Z Grand Am GS Rep Power: 14	Firing order, crankpin arrangement (plane), valve arrangement, just to name a few not mentioned. Mike __________________ Grand Am GS #04 370Z

08-15-2011, 07:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,885 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27408	Where are you finding engines with similar displacement (2.4liter) with similar revs (18,000)?

08-15-2011, 02:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
oleg Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 321 Drives: 2011 370z 6mt sp Rep Power: 14	I didn't mean engines similar to f1 cars but For example an f430 engine red lines at 8500k it's a 4.3L and a v8, sounds like an f1 when flies by. A BMW m3 engine is a v8 that red lines at 8300k I believe with 4.0L but sounds nothing like an f1.

08-15-2011, 04:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
CBRich A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SC Posts: 2,464 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 544	In production vehicles the exhaust setup creates a lot of the sound. F1 cars all sound the way they do because of the super high revs and open exhaust. They're all the same setup so they sound the same.

08-15-2011, 04:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
shadoquad A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: . Posts: 42,608 Drives: . Rep Power: 3886	Doesn't sound like an F1 car to me.

08-15-2011, 08:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
oleg Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 321 Drives: 2011 370z 6mt sp Rep Power: 14	So basically you can't make your engine sound like that unless it comes from factory like that?

08-15-2011, 09:30 PM	#12 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	So whose going to be the first to do an F1 engine swap? __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

08-16-2011, 01:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
oleg Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 321 Drives: 2011 370z 6mt sp Rep Power: 14	since a part of it is engine revving high, how can you make the engine rev higher, as in past 8500k for the Z. Im sure you would need new engine parts to be able to handle that. Also does the speed of the rev matter to the sound at all or no?

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