Question about the F1 sound

bluenoser · 08-16-2011, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Why would anyone want an F1 engine is my question. It would perform like *** anywhere but the circle-track.

It might be ok as long you have a team of mechanics to constantly look after it and you don't mind always driving above 15k rpm

.... and replacing it every 1000 miles.

I'm actually not a fan of how they sound this year. The blown diffuser mapping business makes them sound awful in person. Lotus-Renault (Petrov/Heidfeld not the other Lotus) and the Mercedes' sound broken when they're off throttle. I'm looking forward to the new turbo regs

ImportConvert · 08-16-2011, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bluenoser

It might be ok as long you have a team of mechanics to constantly look after it and you don't mind always driving above 15k rpm

.... and replacing it every 1000 miles.

I'm actually not a fan of how they sound this year. The blown diffuser mapping business makes them sound awful in person. Lotus-Renault (Petrov/Heidfeld not the other Lotus) and the Mercedes' sound broken when they're off throttle. I'm looking forward to the new turbo regs

I honestly never got into F1 or NASCAR or anything. Mainly, I enjoy watching videos of production cars hammering the 'ring or Leguna Seca and the like. You know, something I might be able to actually own one day, basically.

cossie1600 · 08-16-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by oleg

since a part of it is engine revving high, how can you make the engine rev higher, as in past 8500k for the Z. Im sure you would need new engine parts to be able to handle that. Also does the speed of the rev matter to the sound at all or no?

rod bearings crank cams. Got $20K

Buy a LF-A if you want the sound, or Ferraris.

Red__Zed · 08-16-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Why would anyone want an F1 engine is my question. It would perform like *** anywhere but the circle-track.

Powerband would feel like most bikes. Bfd.

shadoquad · 08-16-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I honestly never got into F1 or NASCAR or anything. Mainly, I enjoy watching videos of production cars hammering the 'ring or Leguna Seca and the like. You know, something I might be able to actually own one day, basically.

I like it. It's spectacle. Watching F1, MotoGP, NASCAR, GT or Le Mans... It's all good fun to watch hardcore tuned racing vehicles do their thing.

But I agree that it's also nice to watch genuinely stock sports cars going hard around race tracks or challenging public roads. One of the reasons I love Top Gear so much is that they have challenges in some beat up 80's car.

Mike@AMPerformance · 08-16-2011, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by oleg

since a part of it is engine revving high, how can you make the engine rev higher, as in past 8500k for the Z. Im sure you would need new engine parts to be able to handle that. Also does the speed of the rev matter to the sound at all or no?

Both the stock rods and pistons will have a problem with 8500+. Also, the stock cams don't work up there, nor does the stock exhaust, so in order to both make the engine live and to make any power up top you are going to have to do some serious spending.

Mike

Nitrouz · 08-17-2011, 06:16 PM

youtube 360 cs with capristo exhaust.....closest to F1 imo...

zeddreaming · 08-18-2011, 09:44 PM

If you ever actually heard a F-1 engine you would not even compare it to a street car.

bluenoser · 08-19-2011, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by zeddreaming

If you ever actually heard a F-1 engine you would not even compare it to a street car.

It's unbelievable how loud F1 cars are in person. And fast. The TV coverage really doesn't give a good sense of the noise and speed.

Indy and NASCAR are loud too I guess but not on the same level

Gunzero · 08-19-2011, 03:36 AM

its the small engine size + high rev
ever heard a sport bike before?
(the bike revs to 12k + the engine is small 1000cc or 1.0 liter.. our z has 3700cc or 3.7 liters)
sound frequency (pitch) depends on how fast the object vibrates.
faster the vibration, higher the pitch
hope this answers your question
notice: the higher he revs his engine the higher the exhaust pitch. F1 cars can reach 15k! wow xd

shadoquad · 08-19-2011, 01:06 PM

Great post, Gunzero!

cossie1600 · 08-19-2011, 01:42 PM

Don't jizz in your pants

Renault F1 engine on dyno - YouTube

Cosworth V8 20000rpm engine dyno run - YouTube

TreeSemdyZee · 08-19-2011, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunzero

its the small engine size + high rev
ever heard a sport bike before?
(the bike revs to 12k + the engine is small 1000cc or 1.0 liter.. our z has 3700cc or 3.7 liters)
sound frequency (pitch) depends on how fast the object vibrates.
faster the vibration, higher the pitch
hope this answers your question
notice: the higher he revs his engine the higher the exhaust pitch. F1 cars can reach 15k! wow xd

18k, but who's counting. When I first started watching five or six years ago, they went up to 20k.

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

Don't jizz in your pants

Renault F1 engine on dyno - YouTube

Cosworth V8 20000rpm engine dyno run - YouTube

NOW you tell me. :eek dance:

The Renault video is PURE sex! Unbelievable.

cossie1600 · 08-19-2011, 07:41 PM

FIA limits them to 18K now, I believe 16K is purposed for 2013

M.Bonanni · 08-19-2011, 08:32 PM

Mazda 26B four rotor is the closest I have heard to F1 sounds in a production car...

Mad Mike drifting 'MADBUL' - 1996 MAZDA FD3 RX7 for team Redbull at D1NZ Finals - YouTube

08-17-2011, 06:16 PM	#22 (permalink)
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Gunzero Track Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 889 Drives: Nissan 370z Rep Power: 259	its the small engine size + high rev ever heard a sport bike before? (the bike revs to 12k + the engine is small 1000cc or 1.0 liter.. our z has 3700cc or 3.7 liters) sound frequency (pitch) depends on how fast the object vibrates. faster the vibration, higher the pitch hope this answers your question notice: the higher he revs his engine the higher the exhaust pitch. F1 cars can reach 15k! wow xd __________________ Last edited by Gunzero; 08-19-2011 at 03:40 AM.

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