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Originally Posted by Dark Sarcasm No Mustang has ever been considered Supercar worthy. Its great for straight line red light to next red light but it seriously lacks Supercar handling.

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Old 05-28-2011, 04:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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No Mustang has ever been considered Supercar worthy. Its great for straight line red light to next red light but it seriously lacks Supercar handling. Its great for throwing around curves and fishtailing like the Bandit. And now they want to add more power to it when the power it has now cant be applied to the ground?
Is that so? and who are you to judge this exactly? Dont know if you know this, but a $45k daily driver put down a better lap time at Laguna Seca than an Audi R8... so what again, makes a supercar?
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No Mustang has ever been considered Supercar worthy. Its great for straight line red light to next red light but it seriously lacks Supercar handling. Its great for throwing around curves and fishtailing like the Bandit. And now they want to add more power to it when the power it has now cant be applied to the ground?
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Is that so? and who are you to judge this exactly? Dont know if you know this, but a $45k daily driver put down a better lap time at Laguna Seca than an Audi R8... so what again, makes a supercar?
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2010 Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport vs. 2011 Ford Shelby GT500 ? Performance Car Road Test on RoadandTrack.com
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Yea, Corvette Gran Sport, not a supercar either.
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IDK, I read that article twice. It seems the bang for the buck goes to the Mustang even though acceleration was slower, braking was longer, its slower in the slolam. The Mustang outperformed the the GS in the lateral Gs. The Mustang has 112 more hp than the GS and yet only was able to beat the GS in lateral Gs and price.
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IDK, I read that article twice. It seems the bang for the buck goes to the Mustang even though acceleration was slower, braking was longer, its slower in the slolam. The Mustang outperformed the the GS in the lateral Gs. The Mustang has 112 more hp than the GS and yet only was able to beat the GS in lateral Gs and price.
Your quote "Its great for straight line red light to next red light but it seriously lacks Supercar handling. Its great for throwing around curves and fishtailing like the Bandit. And now they want to add more power to it when the power it has now cant be applied to the ground?" is obviously unfounded and misinformed. I'm sorry you can't see that. Don't take my word for it....
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2011-for...nds-video.html

"Regardless, with the time recorded the 2011 shelby GT500 Mustang beats some fairly elite company with far larger pricetags, such as the Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI, the Ford GT supercar, Dodge Viper SRT-10 and the Porsche 997 GT3 – to name a few."
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"Regardless, with the time recorded the 2011 shelby GT500 Mustang beats some fairly elite company with far larger pricetags, such as the Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI, the Ford GT supercar, Dodge Viper SRT-10 and the Porsche 997 GT3 – to name a few."


My opinion is the Mustang GT500 is a brute power monster and not a Supercar. Much like the Viper. Just because it made it around VIR quicker than some other cars does not mean that it did with any sort of prowess. For all I know the Mustangs time consisted of white knockle ragged edge driving while the Ford GT was composed and controlled around the track. My guess would be whoever drove any of those cars around VIR would not pick the GT500 as their first choice.

I am not saying that the GT500 isnt a badass car, I just dont think it will ever be a "supercar"
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Your logic doesn't make sense. So in order to be considered a supercar, it has to have some sort of artistic prowess? Huh?

Have you ever seen the lap videos of the Zonda R or a ZR1? Or, hell, a SLS AMG? They are hardly composed cars. They look as if they are succeeding by brute force and the sheer will of the driver.

Yet, they are certainly supercars. I mean, I could understand if you said it wasn't a supercar because of its price or luxury or exclusivity, but not how composed it is on the track.

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Second, I truly believe that if the shelby and the Z were the same price everyone would have bought the Shelby.
I don't think this is the case. After all, the 5.0 is cheaper than the Z and it is a more capable track machine, yet the Z still sells. You could also buy a base Vette for the price of a top-range Z.
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Is that so? and who are you to judge this exactly? Dont know if you know this, but a $45k daily driver put down a better lap time at Laguna Seca than an Audi R8... so what again, makes a supercar?
The Audi A8 doesnt come in a V6 base model like a Mustang, therefore the Mustang will never be a "supercar" in my opinion.
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