FT-86 vs 370z time to trade in?

JARblue · 07-20-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KaienZ34

If it does close, it won't be getting any cold air up there on top the motor.

No crap. I had to go back and look at the previous pictures posted for a hood scoop. They'll probably need something like this:

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Originally Posted by jpritche

They are going for this look

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or this

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AlphaSnacks · 07-20-2012, 11:56 AM

Christ...if the compression of the motor becomes an issue for boost that it's limited to just a few pounds, I don't see these things putting down more than 250WHP on stock blocks without blowing up.

The inevitable STi or TRD version of this car will be supremely better than just slapping on a turbo to the base model

CrownR426 · 07-20-2012, 12:19 PM

Um, I think the engine used for both is boost friendly!
I believe the tranny will be an issue...
Great handling car, which is missing some power.
This car is a problem.
Lightweight, rwd, handling, looks.

shadoquad · 07-20-2012, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426

Um, I think the engine used for both is boost friendly!
I believe the tranny will be an issue...
Great handling car, which is missing some power.
This car is a problem.
Lightweight, rwd, handling, looks.

lol not really.

When they can safely deliver over 300hp and still maintain the handling characteristics for under 30k, I might be more impressed.

Red__Zed · 07-20-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426

Um, I think the engine used for both is boost friendly!
I believe the tranny will be an issue...
Great handling car, which is missing some power.
This car is a problem.
Lightweight, rwd, handling, looks.

Compression is way too high to be truly boost friendly.
There's a reason they are running 4psi.
I will eagerly await results/engine carnage pics as appropriate.

Jordo! · 07-20-2012, 03:07 PM

Good start -- but needs more.

My old roots blown Celica GT-S put down 250/170 on a dynojet, would have kept up with a lightly modded Z, and would blow the doors off of that turboed FR-S, even with the wrong wheels doing the grunt work.

Nice torque curve, tho. Got rid of the "death valley" pretty handedly.

DR_ · 07-20-2012, 03:07 PM

I saw the first one on the street yesterday. Within 5 minutes I saw a second. The first one was the white which looked very plain. The second was blue w/tint and it looked much better.

For years I have been saying the holy grail would be RWD 300hp/3000lbs/$30k. When I heard the 370z was going lighter I thought it would be the first. Then I heard about the FT-86 and thought it would be the first. Hopefully one of these days somebody hits this mark from the factory.

Jordo! · 07-20-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DR_

...the holy grail would be RWD 300hp/3000lbs/$30k...

Agreed.

vo2max99 · 10-15-2012, 02:12 AM

Test track #'s don't really matter to me. I'm a lot more concerned with the fun to drive factor.

There's cars with 200hp and under that are a lot more fun & rewarding to drive than many 500+hp cars.

Besides, test track #'s only matter if you race your daily drivers for a living.

Jordo! · 10-15-2012, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vo2max99

Test track #'s don't really matter to me. I'm a lot more concerned with the fun to drive factor.

There's cars with 200hp and under that are a lot more fun & rewarding to drive than many 500+hp cars.

Besides, test track #'s only matter if you race your daily drivers for a living.

So... what you're saying is that you'd rather drive a Miata than a GT-R.

To each their own.

lemon-fresh · 10-15-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DR_

I saw the first one on the street yesterday. Within 5 minutes I saw a second. The first one was the white which looked very plain. The second was blue w/tint and it looked much better.

For years I have been saying the holy grail would be RWD 300hp/3000lbs/$30k. When I heard the 370z was going lighter I thought it would be the first. Then I heard about the FT-86 and thought it would be the first. Hopefully one of these days somebody hits this mark from the factory.

Thirded, I'm eagerly waiting for the extremely overpriced sti version. May hit 2/3 criteria.

BlackZeda · 10-15-2012, 10:50 PM

I have seen a FR-S and a BRZ and have to say the red Scion looked much better, but the Z still beats either by far. The only thing that will make me trade the Z in would be the rumored 400hp hybrid Supra if it looks anything like the artist renderings I have seen.

07-20-2012, 12:19 PM	#183 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 847	Um, I think the engine used for both is boost friendly! I believe the tranny will be an issue... Great handling car, which is missing some power. This car is a problem. Lightweight, rwd, handling, looks. __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

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Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Good start -- but needs more. My old roots blown Celica GT-S put down 250/170 on a dynojet, would have kept up with a lightly modded Z, and would blow the doors off of that turboed FR-S, even with the wrong wheels doing the grunt work. Nice torque curve, tho. Got rid of the "death valley" pretty handedly. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

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DR_ Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dallas Posts: 981 Drives: Touring/Sport M6 PG Rep Power: 17	I saw the first one on the street yesterday. Within 5 minutes I saw a second. The first one was the white which looked very plain. The second was blue w/tint and it looked much better. For years I have been saying the holy grail would be RWD 300hp/3000lbs/$30k. When I heard the 370z was going lighter I thought it would be the first. Then I heard about the FT-86 and thought it would be the first. Hopefully one of these days somebody hits this mark from the factory.

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BlackZeda A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: Englewood, CO Posts: 1,109 Drives: 19 Audi TT RS Rep Power: 22	I have seen a FR-S and a BRZ and have to say the red Scion looked much better, but the Z still beats either by far. The only thing that will make me trade the Z in would be the rumored 400hp hybrid Supra if it looks anything like the artist renderings I have seen.