FT-86 vs 370z time to trade in?

m4a1mustang · 02-03-2012, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

1995 RX-7 loaded - MSRP was $35,300

1995 TT Supra with ALL options - MSRP was $49,900.00

And people made a helluva lot more money in '95 than they do now. Where do you people get this schitt?

vo2max99 · 06-03-2012, 11:22 AM

Overwhelming Evidence (reviews by others) to date suggest the BRZ / FR-S are NOT under-powered / over-priced hence it doesn't make much sense to assume otherwise.

I've stated I wouldn't know one why or another until I got to drive one. However, based on what is known there is no good reason to assume the BRZ / FR-S will somehow be over-priced / under-powered.

When so many who've driven the cars have given them such overwhelming high praise suggesting the cars will somehow be sub par doesn't make any sense.

Now if you've actually driven the car and deemed the car somehow sub par that would be an opinion that actually made sense for you. You would then have a legitimate bases to form a negative opinion.

Not sure how much more clear I can make this...

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m4a1mustang · 06-03-2012, 11:34 AM

I saw a BRZ in the wild last night. Looks very nice!

KaienZ34 · 06-03-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I saw a BRZ in the wild last night, killed and ate it, it was VERY tasty!

You didn't save me any??

AlphaSnacks · 06-03-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vo2max99

Overwhelming Evidence (reviews by others) to date suggest the BRZ / FR-S are NOT under-powered / over-priced hence it doesn't make much sense to assume otherwise.

Actually, overwhelming evidence shows, to me, that this car IS underpowered. That evidence being a 0-120MPH run that takes 28 seconds to achieve.

0-200 km/h : Subaru BRZ (Motorsport) - YouTube

Mer personally, I simply can't justify the cost for that kind of performance.

Compdoc777 · 06-03-2012, 11:54 AM

I am in when the add a turbo to 2.0

m4a1mustang · 06-03-2012, 12:10 PM

I wouldn't pay 28k for one, but for 15-18k I'd buy a used one to DD if I liked how it drove.

I love driving my s2000 even though its painfully slow. So its not all about power, but it is nice to have the 5.0 and clk500 when I need HP/torque.

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Jordo! · 06-03-2012, 02:34 PM

Every review boils down to: Handles and brakes great; needs more torque.

They're testing a twincharged version making 320 bhp. If THAT (or something very close to that) becomes available I'll get that next.

Otherwise, next car will be another Z.

AlphaSnacks · 06-03-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I wouldn't pay 28k for one, but for 15-18k I'd buy a used one to DD if I liked how it drove.

I love driving my s2000 even though its painfully slow. So its not all about power, but it is nice to have the 5.0 and clk500 when I need HP/torque.

S2000 is considerably faster than the BRZ/86.

Drex · 06-03-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vo2max99

Overwhelming Evidence (reviews by others) to date suggest the BRZ / FR-S are NOT under-powered / over-priced hence it doesn't make much sense to assume otherwise.

I've stated I wouldn't know one why or another until I got to drive one. However, based on what is known there is no good reason to assume the BRZ / FR-S will somehow be over-priced / under-powered.

When so many who've driven the cars have given them such overwhelming high praise suggesting the cars will somehow be sub par doesn't make any sense.

Now if you've actually driven the car and deemed the car somehow sub par that would be an opinion that actually made sense for you. You would then have a legitimate bases to form a negative opinion.

Not sure how much more clear I can make this...

the other thread was locked, so you find this one to repost the same thing again? we all get it by now. you love the brz/frs because magazines say its good.

this is getting to the level of spam now.

Iceagetlc · 06-03-2012, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vo2max99

Overwhelming Evidence (reviews by others) to date suggest the BRZ / FR-S are NOT under-powered / over-priced hence it doesn't make much sense to assume otherwise.

I've stated I wouldn't know one why or another until I got to drive one. However, based on what is known there is no good reason to assume the BRZ / FR-S will somehow be over-priced / under-powered.

When so many who've driven the cars have given them such overwhelming high praise suggesting the cars will somehow be sub par doesn't make any sense.

Now if you've actually driven the car and deemed the car somehow sub par that would be an opinion that actually made sense for you. You would then have a legitimate bases to form a negative opinion.

Not sure how much more clear I can make this...

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Enjoy your BRZ.

Jordo! · 06-03-2012, 04:36 PM

Performance-wise, it's basically a hard top MX5. That will be a great little car, but it really can't touch the Z -- a point recently confirmed in a vid of an autox shootout, BTW.

I'm really hoping they offer a factory boosted version -- that would be a Z killer and have tons of potential!

In current form it really only trumps the Z in specific driver-oriented qualia (e.g., feeling of "connectedness"). Otherwise it's just a lesser car all the way around.

High hopes for a FI variant, tho'.

DJ-of-E · 06-04-2012, 03:35 AM

Can we close this thread, too? =P

Anyways.

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Nissan is the only manufacturer that has the balls to keep a proper sports car on the street in the face of the Senate designing cars and Hybrid fever stupidity spreading.

theDreamer · 06-04-2012, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I wouldn't pay 28k for one, but for 15-18k I'd buy a used one to DD if I liked how it drove.

I love driving my s2000 even though its painfully slow. So its not all about power, but it is nice to have the 5.0 and clk500 when I need HP/torque.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

I agree, for 20k new (less for used) I would pick one up for a DD.
It would be fun, cheap and a good car to get from A to B.

b1adesofcha0s · 06-04-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I agree, for 20k new (less for used) I would pick one up for a DD.
It would be fun, cheap and a good car to get from A to B.

+1

06-03-2012, 11:22 AM	#107 (permalink)
vo2max99 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 120 Drives: 08MS3-BM-6MT Rep Power: 13	Overwhelming Evidence (reviews by others) to date suggest the BRZ / FR-S are NOT under-powered / over-priced hence it doesn't make much sense to assume otherwise. I've stated I wouldn't know one why or another until I got to drive one. However, based on what is known there is no good reason to assume the BRZ / FR-S will somehow be over-priced / under-powered. When so many who've driven the cars have given them such overwhelming high praise suggesting the cars will somehow be sub par doesn't make any sense. Now if you've actually driven the car and deemed the car somehow sub par that would be an opinion that actually made sense for you. You would then have a legitimate bases to form a negative opinion. Not sure how much more clear I can make this... --- I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?p4i1eq Last edited by vo2max99; 06-03-2012 at 11:32 AM.

06-03-2012, 11:34 AM	#108 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I saw a BRZ in the wild last night. Looks very nice! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

06-03-2012, 12:10 PM	#112 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I wouldn't pay 28k for one, but for 15-18k I'd buy a used one to DD if I liked how it drove. I love driving my s2000 even though its painfully slow. So its not all about power, but it is nice to have the 5.0 and clk500 when I need HP/torque. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

06-03-2012, 02:34 PM	#113 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Every review boils down to: Handles and brakes great; needs more torque. They're testing a twincharged version making 320 bhp. If THAT (or something very close to that) becomes available I'll get that next. Otherwise, next car will be another Z. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

06-03-2012, 04:36 PM	#117 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 418	Performance-wise, it's basically a hard top MX5. That will be a great little car, but it really can't touch the Z -- a point recently confirmed in a vid of an autox shootout, BTW. I'm really hoping they offer a factory boosted version -- that would be a Z killer and have tons of potential! In current form it really only trumps the Z in specific driver-oriented qualia (e.g., feeling of "connectedness"). Otherwise it's just a lesser car all the way around. High hopes for a FI variant, tho'. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

06-03-2012, 11:54 AM	#111 (permalink)
Compdoc777 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Cypress Posts: 277 Drives: 2011 Nismo #4 MB Rep Power: 14	I am in when the add a turbo to 2.0

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