Nissan 370Z Forum  

Sticker Price On Porsche & Failure To Listen

Well, i drove down to Evansville today to check on the Porsche Cayman. The salesman told me he thought he had found one for me. So, heres what happened. Needless

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > The Lounge (Off Topic) > Other Vehicles


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-02-2011, 09:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Loogootee, IN
Posts: 78
Drives: 09 MB/Frost 370Z AT
Rep Power: 16
Whitey#1 is on a distinguished road
Default Sticker Price On Porsche & Failure To Listen

Well, i drove down to Evansville today to check on the Porsche Cayman. The salesman told me he thought he had found one for me. So, heres what happened. Needless to say i am a little ticked off.

1) He shows me the printout of what this Cayman has, and its an automatic transmission. i immediately gave him back the printout and told him i didnt want an automatic, i wanted the manual. initially i had told him either one but i later changed my mind to manual after the test drive. i had told him on the phone last friday night i wanted a manual. so, read #2 now.

2) We had emailed on Friday afternoon, thats when he told me he had found something. I asked him if it was manual or automatic in an email. no response. 2-3 hours later, after no response, i emailed him and asked him again. still no response. If i would have known it was an automatic i wouldnt have had to waste a trip to Evansville.

3) He tells me there are no more Aqua Blue Cayman cars available, thats it. I tell him i've found others, and i direct them towards a dealer in Connecticut and they found the one i was talking about. Good thing i did their job for them since apparently their Locator isnt that reliable.

4) The one in CT was $59,300 on the sticker, and they said they would figure me up a deal if i could stick around. I tell them not a problem. The salesman came back with this offer:

Sticker - $59,300
Sale Price - $59,300
Trade In - $24,400
Difference - $34,900

5) I just shook my head and reminded him that i had repeatedly - REPEATEDLY - told him the only way i could afford this was to get a steal of a deal. He asked me what i meant by "Steal of a Deal" and i told him i sure as heck didnt mean sticker price. the Louisville dealership had just sold a Cayman two weeks ago by knocking $11,000 off the sticker. I told him i didnt expect $11,000 off the sticker but no way was i paying sticker price.

6) The trade in price was also low. Its at least $1,000 less than what the various books say its trade in value is.

7) He then asks me what i would consider and i tell him we are soooooo far apart that we are just wasting our time. I tell him he's at least $5,000 from where i would even consider it. He wants to know if i will buy it for $29,900 and i tell him to check with his boss and see if he'll take that offer. He says he cant go to his boss unless he has a firm price, so the boss can say yes or no.

8) At this point i just stood up, told him i'd email him monday and let him know about the $29,900 figure, and i walked away. he muttered "okay" and that was that.

Thoughts?

Mike
Whitey#1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2011, 09:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Red__Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: window seat
Posts: 28,940
Drives: Mostly on two wheels
Rep Power: 120
Red__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I would probably get in touch with another dealer if you can. If you think the deal they are giving you is good, go for it. I think you can probably do better than it.

Depending on the options on your Z, 24.5k may not be a such a bad deal on trade in either.
Red__Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2011, 09:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
SoCal 370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: US of A
Posts: 2,842
Drives: Answers
Rep Power: 33
SoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Arrow

Porsche carefully scrutinizes the marketplace to regulate supply and control prices. They make no bones about it, and they are only going to deal so far before it becomes no deal. Maybe you should be looking at the used market as there you are more likely to find a better deal, but it will require you to privately sell your Z.
__________________
( Click to show/hide )
SoCal 370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2011, 09:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Brazilbro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 1,131
Drives: Juke/240Z
Rep Power: 848
Brazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond reputeBrazilbro has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z View Post
Maybe you should be looking at the used market as there you are more likely to find a better deal, but it will require you to privately sell your Z.

You could probably sell the Z quick for 26k and then either look for a used cayman or go make a deal directly with the dealership in CT and have them ship it down to you.
__________________
Juke AWD/240Z SR20
08 Evo 10(Stage 2) SOLD
Fastest Sport 6spd 370Z 11.8 @126.5SOLD
Brazilbro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2011, 10:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
My *** is famous!
 
daisuke149's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Posts: 4,849
Drives: 2013 Boss 302 PW
Rep Power: 31
daisuke149 has a reputation beyond reputedaisuke149 has a reputation beyond reputedaisuke149 has a reputation beyond reputedaisuke149 has a reputation beyond reputedaisuke149 has a reputation beyond reputedaisuke149 has a reputation beyond reputedaisuke149 has a reputation beyond reputedaisuke149 has a reputation beyond reputedaisuke149 has a reputation beyond reputedaisuke149 has a reputation beyond reputedaisuke149 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to daisuke149
Default

get in touch with another dealer.

Friend of mine was looking for a 370z conv and found the one he wanted. dealer wouldnt budge on price. He went to a diff dealer with better service and they got him the car (dealer trade) at a much better price and offered him more for his trade in too.
daisuke149 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 03:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Loogootee, IN
Posts: 78
Drives: 09 MB/Frost 370Z AT
Rep Power: 16
Whitey#1 is on a distinguished road
Default

Just wondering - do Porsche dealers typically charge sticker price? and actually get it?

Mike
Whitey#1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 03:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Red__Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: window seat
Posts: 28,940
Drives: Mostly on two wheels
Rep Power: 120
Red__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitey#1 View Post
Just wondering - do Porsche dealers typically charge sticker price? and actually get it?

Mike
A lot of them do. You might have better luck checking with users on a Porsche forum for negotiating strategy on a Porsche.
Red__Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 08:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Vegitto-kun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 2,011
Drives: 09 370Z
Rep Power: 262
Vegitto-kun has a reputation beyond reputeVegitto-kun has a reputation beyond reputeVegitto-kun has a reputation beyond reputeVegitto-kun has a reputation beyond reputeVegitto-kun has a reputation beyond reputeVegitto-kun has a reputation beyond reputeVegitto-kun has a reputation beyond reputeVegitto-kun has a reputation beyond reputeVegitto-kun has a reputation beyond reputeVegitto-kun has a reputation beyond reputeVegitto-kun has a reputation beyond repute
Default

sorry but I have to say this.


lol cayman.
Vegitto-kun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 08:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Red__Zed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: window seat
Posts: 28,940
Drives: Mostly on two wheels
Rep Power: 120
Red__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond reputeRed__Zed has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun View Post
sorry but I have to say this.


lol cayman.
a super helpful and thoroughly uninformed contribution as always.
Red__Zed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 08:47 PM   #10 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Highway's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 394
Drives: Offroad
Rep Power: 14
Highway is on a distinguished road
Default

The Porsche dealer here seems to think they will get what they're asking for their cars. I've dealt with them before and they weren't interested in working with me too much. They basically said either you want the car or you don't.
Highway is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2011, 09:31 PM   #11 (permalink)
The370Z.com Sponsor
 
Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Loganville, GA
Posts: 5,944
Drives: 370z
Rep Power: 2186
Mike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond reputeMike has a reputation beyond repute
Default

check the porsche forums and their dealer sponsors and find the equivalent of Fusz or Koeppel, like we have here. Go to a dealer that appreciates the enthusiast crowd.
__________________
NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z
Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968
Mike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2011, 07:32 AM   #12 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Loogootee, IN
Posts: 78
Drives: 09 MB/Frost 370Z AT
Rep Power: 16
Whitey#1 is on a distinguished road
Default

I cant seem to find a good Porsche forum. Can anybody point me in the right direction?

Mike
Whitey#1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2011, 11:04 AM   #13 (permalink)
Base Member
 
SMJane_Again's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: COS, CO
Posts: 137
Drives: 18 Golf R
Rep Power: 17
SMJane_Again is on a distinguished road
Default

6speedonline is a pretty solid website. They mostly cater to 911's, but have a very good Boxster/Cayman section as well.

S.
__________________
~S.M.
"Don't look back. Someone might be gaining on you."
-Satchel Paige
SMJane_Again is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2011, 11:11 AM   #14 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
shadoquad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: .
Posts: 42,608
Drives: .
Rep Power: 3886
shadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond reputeshadoquad has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitey#1 View Post
Just wondering - do Porsche dealers typically charge sticker price? and actually get it?

Mike
Never pay sticker.

Of course, we're moving into summer, which is when they'll be looking to get max price for performance cars. If you wait until Fall, say Oct-Nov, you may get your bargain.
shadoquad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2011, 11:19 AM   #15 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
SoCal 370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: US of A
Posts: 2,842
Drives: Answers
Rep Power: 33
SoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSoCal 370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Arrow

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whitey#1 View Post
I cant seem to find a good Porsche forum. Can anybody point me in the right direction?

Mike
Planet-9 is an excellent forum that can assist you.
__________________
( Click to show/hide )
SoCal 370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What Music do you listen to while driving your Z ferrari_rich The Lounge (Off Topic) 37 02-09-2010 11:21 PM
Transmission failure 1slow370 Nissan 370Z General Discussions 32 10-22-2009 03:39 PM
Men never listen Mergnthwirker Gentleman's Club 17 08-30-2009 05:17 AM
Honda S2000 vs BMW 135i vs Nissan 370Z vs Porsche Cayman S vs Porsche 911 JvKintheUSA Nissan 370Z Photos / Spyshots / Video / Media Gallery 2 08-04-2009 02:48 PM
top 10 songs to listen while in the Z arcticreaver Nissan 370Z General Discussions 7 02-11-2009 03:20 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2