2012 Camaro

m4a1mustang · 04-06-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by haggomyeggo

i think someone mentioned it but it does say MSRP is 40k on a Boss mustang

Not sure on a GT500. when they changed to the aluminum block in the GT500 it finally got decent handling reviews.

Im not a fan of the new camero, it does look pretty good and they sell great but just not a drivers car. I like the feel of my Z.

I would love to drive one of these new Boss' though. When will Ford stop acting like Porsche and change the rear suspension from live axle to a independent setup. How much better would the car be??

On track... not really that much better at all. On the street, depending on how good the IRS setup is, the car would handle rough pavement better. But otherwise it doesn't matter all that much.

Though I think it's been confirmed that the next generation Mustangs are going to be a few hundred lbs lighter than current and will be equipped with IRS.

haggomyeggo · 04-06-2011, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

On track... not really that much better at all. On the street, depending on how good the IRS setup is, the car would handle rough pavement better. But otherwise it doesn't matter all that much.

Though I think it's been confirmed that the next generation Mustangs are going to be a few hundred lbs lighter than current and will be equipped with IRS.

see now im not going to want to buy yours.....

Lemers · 04-06-2011, 09:46 AM

Don't we have a great car. I love my Z and haven't driven it to full potential yet. There is nothing on the market yet that I would go trade for. But thanks for keeping us up to date on what else is out there.

m4a1mustang · 04-06-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by haggomyeggo

see now im not going to want to buy yours.....

Well, I'm probably going to buy a next gen just because. You can have that one after I have it for ~18 months.

I need to find an intermediary willing to hold it for 30 days then get an Altima, though.

haggomyeggo · 04-06-2011, 09:53 AM

there is a guy who looks around 30 driving a white V8 vantage around town lately. Im sorry to say but the mustang might be put on hold unless you want to get one of those first..

m4a1mustang · 04-06-2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by haggomyeggo

there is a guy who looks around 30 driving a white V8 vantage around town lately. Im sorry to say but the mustang might be put on hold unless you want to get one of those first..

Next time you come over for a weekend of debauchery we can talk about our next vehicle.

ImportConvert · 04-06-2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

On track... not really that much better at all. On the street, depending on how good the IRS setup is, the car would handle rough pavement better. But otherwise it doesn't matter all that much.

Though I think it's been confirmed that the next generation Mustangs are going to be a few hundred lbs lighter than current and will be equipped with IRS.

Agree. IRS is just about bumps. Sadly, real roads have bumps.

haggomyeggo · 04-06-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Next time you come over for a weekend of debauchery we can talk about our next vehicle.

will we have time for that??

ImportConvert · 04-06-2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The regular SS already does...

True, even a V6 mustang banging off the 114mph speed-limiter all the way down the straights is within 1/2 second of the 370Z NISMO around VIR.

m4a1mustang · 04-06-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Agree. IRS is just about bumps. Sadly, real roads have bumps.

There have only been a few times where I could feel a noticable difference over the bumps with the 5.0 vs. my 370. The road would have to be really bad... so bad that you wouldn't be driving fast on it in any car.

The difference really isn't that big.

Like I've said a few times before, not all IRS is created equal. Ever compare the Z to the Cayman S? There's quite a big difference in how the two cars perform over uneven surfaces.

ImportConvert · 04-06-2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

There have only been a few times where I could feel a noticable difference over the bumps with the 5.0 vs. my 370. The road would have to be really bad... so bad that you wouldn't be driving fast on it in any car.

The difference really isn't that big.

Like I've said a few times before, not all IRS is created equal. Ever compare the Z to the Cayman S? There's quite a big difference in how the two cars perform over uneven surfaces.

The whole lay-out of the Cayman is different.

As to bad roads, I live in Louisiana. We have lots of them.

m4a1mustang · 04-06-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

The whole lay-out of the Cayman is different.

Right. But you can still pinpoint areas in the suspension where the Z doesn't do it quite as well as the C.

Hell compare the Camaro SS to the 5.0. The 5.0 handles way better even over choppy roads.

m4a1mustang · 04-06-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

The whole lay-out of the Cayman is different.

As to bad roads, I live in Louisiana. We have lots of them.

Worst state in the nation. I drove through on my way to Texas a number of years ago (in a Mustang GT, no less) and hated every second of it. The roads. The people. The smells. I couldn't wait to

I think I went south on 55 and then west on I-10.

ImportConvert · 04-06-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Right. But you can still pinpoint areas in the suspension where the Z doesn't do it quite as well as the C.

Hell compare the Camaro SS to the 5.0. The 5.0 handles way better even over choppy roads.

I guess the 1/4 ton difference is made manifest...

As to Porsche vs. the Z, they are just totally different setups. Everything about them.

m4a1mustang · 04-06-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I guess the 1/4 ton difference is made manifest...

As to Porsche vs. the Z, they are just totally different setups. Everything about them.

Right. But per Nissan the Z is intended to take on the C.

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haggomyeggo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: IL Posts: 1,723 Drives: Steves old cars Rep Power: 17	there is a guy who looks around 30 driving a white V8 vantage around town lately. Im sorry to say but the mustang might be put on hold unless you want to get one of those first..