By the numbers, it does. There is more to the driving experience than numbers, though.

I bet with $20 k worth of up grades to the Z. The C wouldn't keep up with the Z

I bet with 20k worth of upgrades to the C the Z wouldn't keep up with the C...

I understand that. But if Nissan is telling me, "hey, buy this instead of the C" I want to see how it stacks up... :icon23:

personally I like the looks of the Z more than the C. I like the aggressive look. The Z's interior is plenty good for the cost of it and the car rides well enough for my tastes. Now you put someone like my dad into my car and he thinks it rides terrible. Now just so you know he drives a 2010 chevy suburban that feels like you are floating over ever bump.

I also dont like the image of the porsche. Especially anything not a 911. and i really dont even like those save for the GT3. for the price of porsche i can buy a lot of other things that i feel are better. b

but i do agree dynamically you can compare the Z and C if not the CaymanS. I think car and driver compared the Z with the CS and it did pretty well on paper.

Well there's a reason I chose to buy the Z over the C. :D

and still a fugly interior

now how can you call a car where you can have your car in red, seats in tan, and seatbelts in yellow.

can you say CUSTOM!!!:roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

Carl! :icon18:

Too bad it looks like a clown car :icon17: sorry couldn't resist :tiphat:

Seriously, if I was gonna buy one of these retro-look American muscle cars, I'd take the Challenger, hands-down. The 2012, not the previous schitbox. Damn thing is beauteous, and omfg it's huge.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/...19f42872_b.jpg

I used $20k due to the premium that the C already has over the Z.

I know, but modded vs. stock arguments are always silly. You could take a Civic and put 20k into it and it'd decimate all.

I used $20k due to the premium that the C already has over the Z.