2012 Camaro

ImportConvert · 04-06-2011, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cfweber

there is a new Boss in town.

The ZL1 has to come in at much less than the $50k estimate

wait for the comparison test

I want the Ford

badly

I'm a total GM fan, but Ford nailed it with the new 5.0 car. If I were buying a car in that market segment, it would be the mustang.

theDreamer · 04-01-2011, 01:23 PM

The problem is the Boss is a NA V8 where the ZL1 is a supercharged V8.
The ZL1 will be paired against the GT500 or whatever Ford does next, GM is already scrambling to find something to compete against the Boss. Hence the reason they said the Z28 might live as a NA V8 soon.

GZ3 · 04-01-2011, 01:31 PM

Could be, i usually see comparos in price brackets vs how they Modded but i think yall are right these are specifically meant for each other boss vs z28 shelby vs zl1

baldie · 04-02-2011, 04:28 AM

the 2013 GT500 will have 600+ hp and will utilize the same blower as the zl1 camaro. 2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Gets 600 Horsepower? News ? Car and Driver

Isamu · 04-02-2011, 10:58 AM

it will still probably be fugly...
but decent numbers and price

Pharmacist · 04-05-2011, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by laricb

6.2L Supercharged V8 engine
Intercooled Eaton supercharger. All-aluminum V8 expected to have at least 550 horsepower. Blinding acceleration, top-end performance and proven reliability coexist happily under the hood

But can it negotiate a corner?

ImportConvert · 04-05-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

But can it negotiate a corner?

It will probably out-perform the 370Z at VIR.

m4a1mustang · 04-06-2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

It will probably out-perform the 370Z at VIR.

The regular SS already does...

haggomyeggo · 04-06-2011, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GZ3

well i saw a BOSS 302 at the ford dealer when i was flirting with a 5.0

, and it was listed at 48k, they keep saying that the ZL1 is going to be about 47k...so am not to sure

i think someone mentioned it but it does say MSRP is 40k on a Boss mustang

Not sure on a GT500. when they changed to the aluminum block in the GT500 it finally got decent handling reviews.

Im not a fan of the new camero, it does look pretty good and they sell great but just not a drivers car. I like the feel of my Z.

I would love to drive one of these new Boss' though. When will Ford stop acting like Porsche and change the rear suspension from live axle to a independent setup. How much better would the car be??

m4a1mustang · 04-06-2011, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by haggomyeggo

i think someone mentioned it but it does say MSRP is 40k on a Boss mustang

Not sure on a GT500. when they changed to the aluminum block in the GT500 it finally got decent handling reviews.

Im not a fan of the new camero, it does look pretty good and they sell great but just not a drivers car. I like the feel of my Z.

I would love to drive one of these new Boss' though. When will Ford stop acting like Porsche and change the rear suspension from live axle to a independent setup. How much better would the car be??

On track... not really that much better at all. On the street, depending on how good the IRS setup is, the car would handle rough pavement better. But otherwise it doesn't matter all that much.

Though I think it's been confirmed that the next generation Mustangs are going to be a few hundred lbs lighter than current and will be equipped with IRS.

ImportConvert · 04-06-2011, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The regular SS already does...

True, even a V6 mustang banging off the 114mph speed-limiter all the way down the straights is within 1/2 second of the 370Z NISMO around VIR.

Lemers · 04-06-2011, 08:46 AM

Don't we have a great car. I love my Z and haven't driven it to full potential yet. There is nothing on the market yet that I would go trade for. But thanks for keeping us up to date on what else is out there.

haggomyeggo · 04-06-2011, 08:53 AM

there is a guy who looks around 30 driving a white V8 vantage around town lately. Im sorry to say but the mustang might be put on hold unless you want to get one of those first..

m4a1mustang · 04-06-2011, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by haggomyeggo

there is a guy who looks around 30 driving a white V8 vantage around town lately. Im sorry to say but the mustang might be put on hold unless you want to get one of those first..

Next time you come over for a weekend of debauchery we can talk about our next vehicle.

haggomyeggo · 04-06-2011, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Next time you come over for a weekend of debauchery we can talk about our next vehicle.

will we have time for that??

04-01-2011, 01:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	The problem is the Boss is a NA V8 where the ZL1 is a supercharged V8. The ZL1 will be paired against the GT500 or whatever Ford does next, GM is already scrambling to find something to compete against the Boss. Hence the reason they said the Z28 might live as a NA V8 soon. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

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GZ3 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 3,296 Drives: Z Rep Power: 22	Could be, i usually see comparos in price brackets vs how they Modded but i think yall are right these are specifically meant for each other boss vs z28 shelby vs zl1 __________________ 09 GT-R 12' 370Z 7AT HANDED DOWN 12'+13' 5.0 SOLD

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Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 53	Don't we have a great car. I love my Z and haven't driven it to full potential yet. There is nothing on the market yet that I would go trade for. But thanks for keeping us up to date on what else is out there. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

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baldie Base Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: California Posts: 62 Drives: 2011 Mustang GT Rep Power: 15	the 2013 GT500 will have 600+ hp and will utilize the same blower as the zl1 camaro. 2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 Gets 600 Horsepower? News ? Car and Driver

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