the least expansive super car?

ImportConvert

S2KfromHell lasted until it was wrecked, as I understand it. They got the S2K after I said the hell with the street scene here, so my info on it comes second and third hand, except for the engine dyno and I looked into that. Internally, it was stock, but that group was famous for "stock" stuff.

For example, they had a girl with a 99-04 year V6 mustang and Nitrous and a cam running low 12's@113.

Then we found out it had a custom manifold.
Then we found out it was a 4.0 truck engine.
Then we found out...

oleg

Found this discussed on the ffr forum. They bring up some valid points about the crash thing and they also compare it to a c6 allot. Either way i think it would be somewhat safe on the streets although from what i read some improvements to the frame wouldn't hurt.
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ImportConvert

What was mentioned is part of what bothers me. Crash testing is not required for this vehicle, nor was it done. It was thought out, designed on the computer, and sold to "you". Of course you will find more 'vettes that got jacked up, but here is a picture of my former roommates C5. It left the road after hitting a concrete barrier at 55mph and flipped 3 times going down an embankment.

He and his passenger suffered a few cuts and he probably had a code-brown. Both are just fine, and he has a few very minor scars from it. No broken bones or "serious" injuries. Lots of blood from what i heard as his scalp got nicked from the lexan roof that shattered (why I hate those removable roofs and refuse to own a 'vette with one). Head wounds bleed a lot. Anyway, RIP C5, glad he and his were in a safe car that had been properly tested.

Red__Zed

I think they were running a 3 mil HG, but I'm not sure on that. The numbers also came on a pretty optimistic dyno, as the quarter mile trap times indicate.

Like most things, the motor will last putting down 650 or so whp stock, but it's just a waiting game. It might last 30-40 runs, it might last one. You just don't know.

cfweber

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ImportConvert

Sounds about right. Belonged to the crew known for blowing up cars just to beat someone, or, as I recall one night, just because they were curious what would blow up first if they threw boost at a car without a tune, lol

Red__Zed

I mean, if you've got the money and the time...go for it. I suppose there are worse ways to waste them.

ImportConvert

More time than money from what I know. Unless their fortunes changed with the Hanesville shale deal or something. Most have shops and just like to tinker.

Red__Zed

The s2k from hell rebuild looked pretty expensive from what I saw. Hard to say though. You can spend a lot more or less than another guy just by having the right or wrong hookups.

ImportConvert

Don't have a clue how that was financed. That one was "done right", from what I know. I do know connections probably paid a big role in things. I stopped hanging out with the group a few years back because all it was was high school type drama and a lot of yelling about who's whatever was faster than whoever elses whatever. A lot of people without the money getting in WAY over their heads on cars that they blew up trying to prove the point, and a whole lot of other mess. I wanted no part of it.

my2004Z

I think everyone is missing the key difference between the extruded aluminum type chassis vs. the steel tube versions used in a lot of race cars. Energy absorption. Your moms Corolla is loaded with crumple zones which take up precious volume and add weight to the car all to keep her brain from bouncing all over the place in her skull and organs from detaching themselves upon impact. All the gear connected to the pilots in serious race cars are meant to make up for the lack of crumple zones while keeping the weight down.

I have had my eye on the GTM Supercar and feel that it's almost to the point where I would buy one. They have enough years under their belts and enough track time for me to call them solid. I wouldn't mind using it as a daily driver either.

b1adesofcha0s

Fvck yes! /thread

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Yeah, this thread was right in both sides of the argument. And you clarified it by showing arguing wasn't necessary based on application specific usefulness.