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CBRich 03-21-2011 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Sarcasm (Post 998601)
Baby Jesus cries everytime you post.

Isn't there a Corvette or GM or LS forum you could post in? ugh.

It wouldnt be so bad if you just commented "That Chassis looks like it would collapse if you breathed on it. Not something I want to do over 100mph in."
but when you throw in a pic of a Z06 chassis (which probably wouldnt fair any better at 100mph) it just wreaks of impotence.

you avg 5 post a day and you dont own a 370.
Go away already.

You get rep points. :tup:

Isamu 03-21-2011 07:37 AM

check out the Ultima GTR, it's a cheap "super car" but its a kit car

Cmike2780 03-21-2011 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 998931)
Cry me a river. I think you forgot the name of the forum you are in.

Steel tubing is nice, but I would rather a more substantial frame in addition. If steel tubing alone were so great then a lot of high end cars are being built wrong. The reason they use steel tubing is one of cost, not design superiority.

Do you honestly believe that? High end cars are being built with carbon fiber and sheet metal because most high end customers don't want steel bars running across the cabin. High cost doesn't equal superiority. Ask any race team the strongest part of a racecar frame and they'll tell you its the roll cage. Don't get me wrong, modern canopy's can be built to be just as strong as steel tubing, Formula One yes, but not in a vette.

Nascar frame:
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/nascar-frame.jpg

Porsche GT3 R Hybrid
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JpAzjGpfpp...r-interior.jpg

Last but not least, a 1.8 million dollar (est.) Pagani Zonda R
http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/atta...otoblog-4-.jpg

Isamu 03-21-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 999254)
Last but not least, a 1.8 million dollar (est.) Pagani Zonda R
http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/atta...otoblog-4-.jpg

I just came
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Cmike2780 03-21-2011 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 999473)
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naked Zonda's will do that. :icon18::bowrofl::roflpuke2:

Red__Zed 03-21-2011 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 999503)
naked Zonda's will do that. :icon18::bowrofl::roflpuke2:

|:rofl2:|

ImportConvert 03-21-2011 12:00 PM

All those cars you posted pictures of, and the OP's first picture have some differences.

One, the OP's car uses square "tubing" in the door area.

Two, there are only 2 pieces of said square tubing with no cross-bracing by that door area.

If some dillweed is going to hit you, it will probably be the worst from the side. OP's picture of the "frame" just doesn't inspire confidence in me regarding size-impact.

The NASCAR looks bulletproof, and the GT3 as well, and is based on a frame of sorts. Huge X-bracing (tubular) by the doors. Like. The Zonda, well, your pictures didn't show this: http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/...Pagani-082.jpg
Those seats are sitting low and behind some serious frame protection from the sides. Again, very awesome.

All are much better than 2 pieces of squared steel "tubing" that have no crossbracing anywhere near the impact point that worries me most (driver/passenger door).

I am not denying that tube chassis are not the bomb if done right (not as a cost-saver like in OP's photo and what I was referring to), just that I would rather have a 6" hydroformed steel or aluminum chassis rather than a small square tube between me and a T-bone incident.

The car the OP posted and the Zonda, GT3, and NASCAR aren't even in the same league--and that was the point the OP was making. The car they posted was the least expensive "Supercar" to be had. The structure of it just doesn't inspire my confidence. Glad you all like it, though. I would rather have a perimeter frame car, or properly built tube chassis car like the others pictured.

Red__Zed 03-21-2011 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 999589)
All those cars you posted pictures of, and the OP's first picture have some differences.

One, the OP's car uses square "tubing" in the door area.

Two, there are only 2 pieces of said square tubing with no cross-bracing by that door area.

If some dillweed is going to hit you, it will probably be the worst from the side. OP's picture of the "frame" just doesn't inspire confidence in me regarding size-impact.

The NASCAR looks bulletproof, and the GT3 as well, and is based on a frame of sorts. Huge X-bracing (tubular) by the doors. Like. The Zonda, well, your pictures didn't show this: http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/...Pagani-082.jpg
Those seats are sitting low and behind some serious frame protection from the sides. Again, very awesome.

All are much better than 2 pieces of squared steel "tubing" that have no crossbracing anywhere near the impact point that worries me most (driver/passenger door).

I am not denying that tube chassis are not the bomb if done right (not as a cost-saver like in OP's photo and what I was referring to), just that I would rather have a 6" hydroformed steel or aluminum chassis rather than a small square tube between me and a T-bone incident.

The car the OP posted and the Zonda, GT3, and NASCAR aren't even in the same league--and that was the point the OP was making. The car they posted was the least expensive "Supercar" to be had. The structure of it just doesn't inspire my confidence. Glad you all like it, though. I would rather have a perimeter frame car, or properly built tube chassis car like the others pictured.

Yeah, you know I'm totally worried about getting t-boned when I hit the track.

ChrisSlicks 03-21-2011 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 999473)
I just came
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It was probably the beautiful woven curves of the ceramic coated headers exiting that AMG V12 that put you over the edge.

Cmike2780 03-21-2011 12:14 PM

Isn't the chassis something you build? It not like you can't reinforce the chassis with more bracing. It's probably in the doors anyways.

ImportConvert 03-21-2011 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 999600)
Yeah, you know I'm totally worried about getting t-boned when I hit the track.

Are we talking about a "supercar" or a track slut?

Red__Zed 03-21-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 999731)
Are we talking about a "supercar" or a track slut?

The whole point of a car like this is track use.

Isamu 03-21-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 999747)
The whole point of a car like this is track use.

that's why I would get it.. tho the occasional jaunt to a fancy resturant to pick up mad bitchs would be in order

Red__Zed 03-21-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 999765)
that's why I would get it.. tho the occasional jaunt to a fancy resturant to pick up mad bitchs would be in order

Haha, true. It's not like it is any less safe than a motorcycle.

Cmike2780 03-21-2011 01:18 PM

Square tubing can be just as strong as round tubing. It depends on the cross section and wall thickness.

Also, almost forgot the Ariel Atom
http://papipipu.edublogs.org/files/2...l-atom-r34.jpg


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