2011 Nissan GT-R vs Cadillac Station Wagon

b1adesofcha0s · 03-18-2011, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Xan

Useless compare... Put the tires on the GTR and it would win...

GTR has a lot of left over potential from stock... Caddy is maxed out... So there is plenty of substitute....

Not really. It's basically saying if you give us your money, we can make your Caddy Wagon faster in a 1/4 mile than a GT-R. Doesn't matter how it does so. I can guarantee they will get some sales for their performance package just from ppl watching these videos.

Red__Zed · 03-18-2011, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Not really. It's basically saying if you give us your money, we can make your Caddy Wagon faster in a 1/4 mile than a GT-R. Doesn't matter how it does so. I can guarantee they will get some sales for their performance package just from ppl watching these videos.

+1. They appeal to a totally different market too. I would love to have a fast Caddy wagon just for bragging rights.

b1adesofcha0s · 03-18-2011, 11:00 PM

Haha, just went on the Caddy website and out of 6 colors available for the wagon, 3 are gray. It's 4 if you include black. Other 2 colors are red and white.

Xan · 03-18-2011, 11:05 PM

I'm sure they'll get sales and it's useful for that.

I meant it's useless as a true car to car comparison, if you look a little further at what they compare and by how much it wins... Maybe meaningless is a better word...

b1adesofcha0s · 03-18-2011, 11:10 PM

Yeah, but I think it's obvious that it wasn't meant as a true car to car comparison.

dang370z · 03-18-2011, 11:15 PM

The caddy won and it cost less is what they are trying to show. But if everyone thought like that then why don't we all just buy a base civic and slap 10k on it and it would be faster then most cars 50k and under.

P.S. while we are at it

faster than Bugatti

MC · 03-18-2011, 11:18 PM

thats a slow time for a stock 11 GT-R... since it has the improved launch control over the 2010... it should run 11.6/11.5 all day long

stock 2012.. would have ran 10.9 to 11.1

b1adesofcha0s · 03-18-2011, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MC

thats a slow time for a stock 11 GT-R... since it has the improved launch control over the 2010... it should run 11.6/11.5 all day long

stock 2012.. would have ran 10.9 to 11.1

Was it possible that they didn't use launch control? Don't see why they would if they were trying to show the Caddy is faster.

b1adesofcha0s · 03-18-2011, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dang370z

The caddy won and it cost less is what they are trying to show. But if everyone thought like that then why don't we all just buy a base civic and slap 10k on it and it would be faster then most cars 50k and under.

P.S. while we are at it

faster than Bugatti

Apparently AMS is working on an Alpha 12 package for the GT-R and it's making so much power that it's getting wheel spin on the dyno

They said they were around 1100 whp with the wheel spin issue last time I checked.

MC · 03-18-2011, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Was it possible that they didn't use launch control? Don't see why they would if they were trying to show the Caddy is faster.

well you can hear it hold to some amount of rpm for a brief second in the video... sounded somewhere just above idle maybe 2K.... just mashing the gas from idle or holding it to say 2500 rpm or less will get you about 11.8ish.. a good pedal to the floor launch at 3300-3500 rpm is 11.5- 11.6 on a 2011

just like when motortrend ran the LFA what did that GTR run a 11.9 or something? c'mon

Red__Zed · 03-18-2011, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MC

well you can hear it hold to some amount of rpm for a brief second in the video... just mashing the gas from idle or holding it to say 2500 rpm will get you about 11.8ish.. a good pedal to the floor launch at 3300-3500 rpm is 11.5- 11.6 on a 2011....

it could be crappy track prep.

MC · 03-18-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed

it could be crappy track prep.

yeah thats true that why its hard to judge these things after the fact... i ran 11.3-11.9 all because of track prep even so bad when the VDC comes on and babysits and bogs the car down ive ran 12.1s

MC · 03-18-2011, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

Apparently AMS is working on an Alpha 12 package for the GT-R and it's making so much power that it's getting wheel spin on the dyno

They said they were around 1100 whp with the wheel spin issue last time I checked.

ya info here

Preliminary AMS ALPHA 12 Dyno testing....1100whp has been breached - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club

Red__Zed · 03-18-2011, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MC

yeah thats true that why its hard to judge these things after the fact... i ran 11.3-11.9 all because of track prep

but prep should affect the caddy aswell.. who knows

It's not unbelievable that the Caddy might be faster on a better prepped track as well. Hard to say though.

b1adesofcha0s · 03-19-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MC

ya info here

Preliminary AMS ALPHA 12 Dyno testing....1100whp has been breached - NAGTROC - The Nissan GT-R Owners Club

I didn't know if it was ok for me to post a link to another forum, so I just left it at that.

They are doing some good work. I'm excited to see the results.

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dang370z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: NoLA Posts: 242 Drives: 2013 MBlack Rep Power: 16	The caddy won and it cost less is what they are trying to show. But if everyone thought like that then why don't we all just buy a base civic and slap 10k on it and it would be faster then most cars 50k and under. P.S. while we are at it faster than Bugatti