2009 Nissan 370z vs 1996 Toyota Supra

Red__Zed

I think those Supra's are one of the best affordable cars ever produced. Alongside the 93-95 RX7's, there's quite a bit of history and epicness I don't think we will see again, especially with the way safety requirements are going.

BLM

As much as I love my Z i'd trade it for a stock supra if I could. The Supra is legendary, especially given the aftermarket available. BPU's easily make 450 whp. A single turbo swap on low boost and pump gas makes close to 600 whp with supporting mods. It's a one of a kind car. Now, if I had the $$ i'd probably still go for the GTR (similar 6 cyl twin turbo from factory) but the supra's are considerably cheaper. You can find them with built motors and single turbo set-ups on Ebay for $50k. Stock GTR is still 80-ish. However, once you start really bumping the power above 500 the Awd of the GTR will make up for the large initial price difference allowing you to put that power to the ground.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-...ht_2747wt_1168

This one is a bit much, but makes 550 whp on pump gas and is a gem. The guy is looking for $50k

There's others on there in mid 20's with BPU upgrades.

EDIT: OMG there's one on there with 31k miles!!! Only thing is you need to order a single turbo kit for it. The guy took the stock twins out and never finished his project. What a steal though for that car.

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ImportConvert

The Supra is an incon, and I like them, but the looks are only so/so to me. I think the 300ZX TT and the C5 corvette look better, from that time period, assuming 100% stock vehicles. Same for the NSX. Tires are too tiny looking for the wide body.

b1adesofcha0s

You can get a used GT-R in the $60k range and even in the $50k range if you find a good deal on the GT-R forums.

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BLM

There are some Best Motoring vids of the Honda NSX-R that show it beating an e92 M3, Rs4, and other cars with more than 100 bhp on it in a standing 1/4 miles. It's also one of the best, if not the best, cars to have on a road course. It's also on my list of dream cars.

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ImportConvert

Dunno what year that was, but the NSX I stomped didn't have anything for my stock, 150K mile old dinosaur of an LS1 f-body from a 70 hit on a Mexican highway.

BLM

US spec Acura NSX's are completely different and drastically underperformers compares to a Honda NSX-R. And these were standing 1/4 mile comparisons. Above 100 mph the aforementioned cars would surely pull on it by quite a bit due to their tremendous power advantages.

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Jeffblue

vettes have gotten more expensive, japanese sports cars have gotten less expensive.... what does that say about where each company is putting their engineering money

ImportConvert

Extrapolated for inflation, a 1984 C4 vette costs $44K. The new 'vette costs $48K, and...

It is nearly 500% more rigid.
It has over 170% more power.
It still gets gets within 2mpg of it on the highway and identical mileage in the city.
It has a 5/100 powertrain warranty.



I would say the money is being spent well. Not bad for $4K.

Jeffblue

money well spent. my point was that gm is still putting a fair amount of money into engineering its sports cars, nissan seems to be the only japanese car that actually has sports cars, and then all the others have just abandoned them completely. oh wait, i forgot, toyota is spending a lot of money on engineering high performance cars.... the LFA, which no one can afford.

Zaggeron

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Actually Corvettes have decreased in cost in terms of percentage of median income. The 2010 base Corvette has a MSRP of about 48K. That price is actually less expensive than 36K was in 1994.

But you are right in that the Zs and RXs, etc. are no longer competing in the same bracket as the Corvette. They certainly were direct competitors in the '90s

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TongMan

Gas was mad cheap back in the 90's though.

stifun

I actually own a 1997 Supra TT 6spd BPU+++ and I love the 370Z/Nismo and have driven them and they are amazing car's.

But I would never own one they make nice DD or track toy's but takes lot's of $$$$ to go fast FI and Superchargers kits are big bucks.

Now on my Supra when the stock twins go out I will replace with a T6766 turbo and be doing low 10's easy and faster if I desire so for me it was the Supra or nothing.

DJ-of-E

I remember in the 90s where 500+HP 300zx turbos were brought up left and right. Can't really do that to our current engines unless you rebuild it.

The vids where they didn't choose a Lotus Elise in a Touge battle when it completely whips its contenders by 2 seconds? Same videos show fixed battles when comparing to "non-JDM" cars?

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ImportConvert

Been a while since this thread was updated, but the MKIV is starting to look dated, a bit, to me. Great engine/chassis, but it has seen its day. It's like the old mustang 5.0 back before its time: Awesome car to modify, but there are now better options on the table.