Hyundai Coupe getting 333hp
 

So its confirmed, the Hyundai Genesis coupe will get 333 horsepower, 291 pound-feet of torque AND a new "face lift" (I wonder how much it will weight?). Looks like they are taking a direct shot at the 370z lineup.... One thing that Hyundai does well is copy other cars ( in terms of design ), the Genesis sedan looks exactly like Mercedes Benz. So lets hope they dont copy the Z when they go back to the drawing boards for the Genesis Coupe.........here is the article below

Spy Shots: Hyundai Genesis Coupe facelift on the way — Autoblog

It's still a 2+2..not a true sports car imho

meh

Good for Hyundai, and good for consumers!

It's like a cheaper G37 (and a fairly good one, IMO). I don't see it as direct competition with the Z because of the whole 2+2 deal.

Lol the japanese are known for copying too such as Lexus. Some may even say the z is copying Porsche so why shouldn't hyundai copy Nissan?

All car companies copy each other. It's market competition. If toyota has a truly stunning innovation, do BMW and Mercedes ignore it or come up with their own version of it? Or do they simply buy licensing from toyota? I'm guessing they don't ignore it if it attracts consumers.

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Good to see the competition stepping it up, hopefully the Z will counter in the upcoming years. Just because it has 2 more seats, doesn't mean it's not a competitor. People will be comparing performance and price more heavily than the number of seats.

Should make for an interesting bout in the upcoming years.

So are 911's... does that make them not a sports car?

I think the 911 is and has always been the one exception to the rule. :icon17:

Probably because the seats aren't made for humans, hell they barley fit my ultimate solider dolls

hehe it's true. They exist but are too small to be of any use.

I understand that the Japanese are known for copying, but that still doesnt make it right. I personally feel that it is NOT good for competition. Some companies profit well from it, but from a consumer perspective or anyone that appreciates automobiles it does not move the automobile industry forward. Nissan got their design from previous Z's, 40 years of them being built, so I think that another car company coming in and stealing that design/tradition from a car is a slap in the face.....so as i said before I hope they dont do that.....plus I dont want people coming up to me asking me "Hey is that a Hyundai?"......

dang 333hp. how many horses do our cars have again? 332 or was it 334? or 332.57?

Ok, but it's still a Hyundai.:bowrofl:

I think copying is ok for competition, as long as it isn't a direct ripoff. There is patent law out there to prevent direct copies from occurring.

the old one only weighed in at 3389lbs. even if they keep the same weight, with 333 hp, many consumers/magazines will be comparing these two cars...



im gonna need forced induction

What stands out to me is that it gained a whopping 15% more power from switching to DI (probably due, in part, to higher CR pistons being used?)!

If we extrapolate to the VQ motor, it could make 381 crank with DI.

For the coming FT-86, which will have a DI boxer, it means even the lackluster 2.0 that normally makes 170 bhp could make as much as 195 for starters.

That's the 4banger that weighs 3389, the v6 is like 3480ish lbs on the track and around 3430ish on the 3.8 R-spec. Either way the genesis coupe is well under 3600lbs in both trims
The 4 banger will most likely be very close to 280hp and I know for sure 333hp is confirmed for the genesis sedan. I think the genesis coupe may be tuned into the 340's?? I say this only because the current genesis sedan 3.8 gets 290hp while the gencoupe gets 306/312prem. So it might get tuned a little further again into the 340-350range. MTspeculated the 6dct for the gencoupe this year and the 333hp is based on the 8 speed traditional auto. If the gencoupe gets DI and DCT, I would expect higher numbers for sure. One other thing, if the gencoupe makes minor suspension tweaks and widens the r spec and track tires along with that HP/TQ bump. Expect a hyundai to be serious comp and not the fly by night "Meh its a hyundai and not real sports car" many dismiss it as.
Anyway, the Z is my favorite car. I just hope that lackluster Z sales doesn't affect nissan in terms of making a more powerful Z. Honestly guys,I haven't heard anything about the Z except for a few sketches and some hybrid diesel crap. And that kinda news does nothing for enthusiasts.
I'm praying nissan does something for both Z and G. Honestly, the G37ipl is a joke. It should have been the G37s and sold at 46k max Instead of 51k max. Its decisions like these that will make nissan fall apart in the enthusiast segment. The skyline needs to be more skyline and less pseudo luxury.

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Nissan definitely needs to step it up if they want to stay competitive. I think there is a new version of the G37 coming for the 2012 model year. The IPL G37 was definitely a disappointment IMO. It's pretty much like a Nismo 370Z compared to a non-Nismo. They added a body kit and a little more power, should have just called it the G37 Nismo. It's not really competing with anything where it's at. It's nowhere near anything like BMW's M division or Mercedes AMG.

the good old days are right now
 

It's never been a better time to be an enthusiast.

These are the best cars ever made ( with very few and very expensive exceptions)

Particularly in terms of bang for the buck this is just a great time.

We win no matter what.

If Nissan steps up we can hope wait and dream about the new Z

If not we own a rare Z and we mod

I'm glad Hyundai is pushing the competition

It's very good

I completely agree, the GT-R has back seats too.

I agree, the fact that they are making the Genesis Coupe with 333 hp is great for the next generation Z ( i just dont want it to look like a Z ). This puts pressure on Nissan to deliver on the next model, who knows we may end up seeing the next Z with a new engine, with more horsepower. Lets wait and see over the next few months, it would be great to hear about the next gen.

Same deal with Aero and Veyron. Aero made a car with 10hp more than then the veyron. And bugatti made another that's only 6hp more? I don't know the exact numbers. The gen coupe forums were always comparing their cars to ours.

Nissan also has cars like the Mustang 5.0 GT to worry about too. As much as anyone says they are two totally different cars, it doesn't change the fact that all of their sales are taking away from potential sales for the 370Z.

Move to other vehicle section! ;)

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That does make more sense now that I think about it :)

Hey! Those are my 2001 Celica wheels! I was wondering where they went. :icon17:

If Nissan were to fit a v8 in the Z it would bump the price dramatically. I don't know where they'd get such a motor either. BMW has had highly tuned V8's for years. I'm sure the Nissan engineers could easily build a high revving v8 but it would take some time. And as sick as it would be, I doubt there's a way to put the GT-R motor in the Z. It would eliminate manual transmission as an option and would be nearly impossible to drive in stock trim with rwd. They'd need to add brembo/stop-tech brakes also to handle that power, which would also increase the price. A stage 1 GTM SC will put down nearly 400 whp for around $7500 installed, which would be around $40,000 total assuming a base sport model. You'll retain a tremendous amount of drivability and the linear powerband. I dont think there's much more nissan can do to make more than 350-360 bhp out of the box while maintaing the price range.

Two words: Direct Injection. There were some rumors going around that the Z was gonna go the DI route and said that bhp was around the 360 range. This is how the Gen coupe got its power bump, so it's not crazy to expect the same for the Z. I don't think Nissan would ever offer a SC with the Z. If they do choose to go the FI route it will most definitely by TT. I don't think they would ever go TT on the 370Z though, it would make it too easy to make it more powerful than the GT-R. Maybe when they introduce the next gen GT-R and it blows the current one away, they get let the Z have TT without having to worry about it potentially hurting GT-R sales.

I'm all for bigger and better, but I love the Z in stock trim as is. I will eventually own a GT-R and that'll have a completely different purpose than my Z.

GT-R is definitely my next car too. Waiting for the R36 to come out, by the time it does I may be able to afford it. :excited:

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blah, C5 did pretty well given it copied the front end from the FD RX-7

If anything they need that bump of hp/tq to compete with our sister G37.
Always imitated, never duplicated!

And regarding our 370z's.
I believe that the next generation will be getting direct injection.
No turbo's since nissan stays with the heritage of n/a.
But that juke motor is going to be the start of something amazing for nissan!
Hopefully I won't mod my car too much cause Nissan is going to make a turbo rwd beast!

GT-R isn't a true sports car, either, I guess.
I forgot the exact formula, but I believe every 1/2 point in compression is 15 horsepower in an NA motor, roughly.
I'm more into American V8's, and that is what that formula is for, but should be close to accurate at these hp levels (mid 300's).

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Like Econ said, Im gonna need forced induction. It makes me upset when they make me upgrade. But good for hyundai. Ill start saving my pennies now so that Ill have a tt kit for when they make it official.

Then where are the German supra's!?

I'm glad the german's pushed the envelope with the M's and AMG's and RS versions getting more and more powerful. It likely inspired Nissan to get the GTR over here (FINALLY!!!)