Hyundai Coupe getting 333hp

b1adesofcha0s · 03-08-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BLM

I know. They usually can't drive and return the porsche's in 2 weeks because they're "too bumpy". Just because they have the money to afford more doesn't mean a thing. The one badge they all wear proudly is paying too much for their cars. Many purchase cars for status and to compensate for other areas of their lives that are lacking (often between their legs). The GT-R has a long heritage of racing and will stack up just fine against AMG, M, or porsche.

Some people don't have a car's performance as their top priority in the decision making process. Some like to have looks, luxury, and comfort as top priorities and then choose the high performance trim of the same model to have a good overall balance. I don't have any problem with that. Not everyone is going to track their car, so having the all out best performance car on the street means nothing to them. They want a car that is comfortable and fun to drive. One day when I get old, I will probably be one of them

There isn't an AMG or ///M that can beat the GT-R. It's main competitors are the 911 turbo (the next gen 911's are coming out this year I think) and the Corvette. Those are all cars made specifically to be performance machines and bred for the track.

BLM · 03-08-2011, 09:31 AM

I agree. If I had the $$ my DD would be an Audi S6 or S63 AMG. Luxury, comfort, and some performance to boot (mostly straight line grunt when compared to real sports cars)

b1adesofcha0s · 03-08-2011, 09:34 AM

I think we should get back on topic now, lol.

My sister wanted a Genesis coupe and when I told her it was going to get 1 HP more than my Z, she just laughed at me. She wanted the V4 before, but now she wants the V6 just to have 1 HP more than me.

Cunnos · 03-08-2011, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s

I think we should get back on topic now, lol.

My sister wanted a Genesis coupe and when I told her it was going to get 1 HP more than my Z, she just laughed at me. She wanted the V4 before, but now she wants the V6 just to have 1 HP more than me.

haha at first i wasnt mad that the Genesis would have 1 more HP, but now its kind of getting at me, they definitely did that on purpose haha. Im sure the weight of the Hyundai will be in the same ballpark as the Z too. Whenever the Hyundai comes out we will see many threads comparing the two cars, it wont be a Z vs the Mustang-it will be Z vs the Genesis.......

b1adesofcha0s · 03-08-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunnos

haha at first i wasnt mad that the Genesis would have 1 more HP, but now its kind of getting at me, they definitely did that on purpose haha. Im sure the weight of the Hyundai will be in the same ballpark as the Z too. Whenever the Hyundai comes out we will see many threads comparing the two cars, it wont be a Z vs the Mustang-it will be Z vs the Genesis.......

I think the Z will be a bit lighter though and still have a better quality interior. From the pic in the article, the Z definitely wins in the looks category as well. I think the Z has a better chance in a comparo with the Gen coupe than the Mustang GT. The Z and the Genesis are a lot more similar too. IMO the Genesis is kind of trying to be a combination of a G37 and a 370Z, and it seems like it will be working well with the new HP bump. The HP was definitely targeted at the Z. Hyundai is aiming at us the way that Nissan is aiming at the Cayman. We know the other is better, so we just use the cost excuse

However, the difference between the cost of the Genesis and the Z is much smaller than that between the Z and the Cayman S.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-08-2011, 09:50 AM

[QUOTE=ImportConvert;975096]GT-R isn't a true sports car, either, I guess.

"True sports car." Some people just hear fanboy chatter and repeat it. The Z is a traditional sports car. Gran turismo sports cars, are just as much sports cars as the traditional 2 seaters. There are cases where the GT sports car out-handles out-maneuvers and out performs traditional sports cars. And its not just the porsche 911 either... as you stated with the GT-R. Not many so called sports cars can touch it. Lol

Back to topic. All the 370z needs is a TT setup. Let the TT start right under 40k and offer around 420hp/360lb tq. Going to a v8 will change driving characteristics too much and make the car lose some handling capability. To maintain handling, Nissan would have to redesign the whole car. I honestly want more power in this same exact platform. Besides forced induction will keep it light and at under 3300lbs, the fatter cars will have more comp on its hands.
I think that the Z might have to slightly lower its msrp back to 2009 numbers on the non aspirated Z if it came out with the FI, Z. The mustang did it on the GT coupes. I think that will help boost sales for the Z as I know it will do for the mustang.
The concept of the rare car is kinda kool but, I rather the Z just win the performance war than cancel out.

b1adesofcha0s · 03-08-2011, 09:52 AM

To everyone who says the GT-R is not a true sports car, I say "You're right it's not a sports car......it's a super car!"

I want a Z · 03-08-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Isamu

It's still a 2+2..not a true sports car imho

so then neither is the 911 & GTR ?

any way, I don't think it was ever meant as a true sports car

BLM · 03-08-2011, 12:12 PM

I don't care if it's classified as a flying dildo...I want a GT-R

FuszNissan · 03-08-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BLM

I don't care if it's classified as a flying dildo...I want a GT-R

m4a1mustang · 03-08-2011, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLM

I don't care if it's classified as a flying dildo...I want a GT-R

kenchan · 03-08-2011, 12:18 PM

lol...

NYBladeZ · 03-08-2011, 12:27 PM

333 Hyundai hp doesn't feel like 333 actual horsepower. Some cars are under estimated, in Hyundai's case I think they are overestimating to draw more young consumers.

BLM · 03-08-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

333 Hyundai hp doesn't feel like 333 actual horsepower. Some cars are under estimated, in Hyundai's case I think they are overestimating to draw more young consumers.

New 5.0 Mustang GT's are rated at 412 bhp and dyno-ing at 395 whp! And they have Getrag tranny's stock. On the other end, I remember the horrific over-estimation that was the Mazda RX-8. There was such a huge discrepency between advertised bhp and power to the wheels that they actually issued customers rebates.

b1adesofcha0s · 03-08-2011, 01:52 PM

The 370Z is rated at 332 bhp, but puts out around 270-280 whp. I don't really know much about cars and normal drivetrain losses, but that seems like a lot compared to the figures for the mustang 5.0 that BLM gave.

03-08-2011, 09:31 AM	#47 (permalink)
BLM Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 342 Drives: 2011 Silver M6 sport Rep Power: 14	I agree. If I had the $$ my DD would be an Audi S6 or S63 AMG. Luxury, comfort, and some performance to boot (mostly straight line grunt when compared to real sports cars) __________________ K&N // GTM // BERK

03-08-2011, 09:34 AM	#48 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	I think we should get back on topic now, lol. My sister wanted a Genesis coupe and when I told her it was going to get 1 HP more than my Z, she just laughed at me. She wanted the V4 before, but now she wants the V6 just to have 1 HP more than me. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

03-08-2011, 09:52 AM	#52 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	To everyone who says the GT-R is not a true sports car, I say "You're right it's not a sports car......it's a super car!" __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

03-08-2011, 12:12 PM	#54 (permalink)
BLM Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 342 Drives: 2011 Silver M6 sport Rep Power: 14	I don't care if it's classified as a flying dildo...I want a GT-R __________________ K&N // GTM // BERK

03-08-2011, 12:27 PM	#58 (permalink)
NYBladeZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 2,158 Drives: Lotus Exige S Rep Power: 20	333 Hyundai hp doesn't feel like 333 actual horsepower. Some cars are under estimated, in Hyundai's case I think they are overestimating to draw more young consumers. __________________ 2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold 2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling

03-08-2011, 09:50 AM	#51 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	[QUOTE=ImportConvert;975096]GT-R isn't a true sports car, either, I guess. "True sports car." Some people just hear fanboy chatter and repeat it. The Z is a traditional sports car. Gran turismo sports cars, are just as much sports cars as the traditional 2 seaters. There are cases where the GT sports car out-handles out-maneuvers and out performs traditional sports cars. And its not just the porsche 911 either... as you stated with the GT-R. Not many so called sports cars can touch it. Lol Back to topic. All the 370z needs is a TT setup. Let the TT start right under 40k and offer around 420hp/360lb tq. Going to a v8 will change driving characteristics too much and make the car lose some handling capability. To maintain handling, Nissan would have to redesign the whole car. I honestly want more power in this same exact platform. Besides forced induction will keep it light and at under 3300lbs, the fatter cars will have more comp on its hands. I think that the Z might have to slightly lower its msrp back to 2009 numbers on the non aspirated Z if it came out with the FI, Z. The mustang did it on the GT coupes. I think that will help boost sales for the Z as I know it will do for the mustang. The concept of the rare car is kinda kool but, I rather the Z just win the performance war than cancel out.

03-08-2011, 12:18 PM	#57 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	lol...

03-08-2011, 01:52 PM	#60 (permalink)
b1adesofcha0s A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: MD Posts: 40,963 Drives: HypeTrain Choo Choo! Rep Power: 141	The 370Z is rated at 332 bhp, but puts out around 270-280 whp. I don't really know much about cars and normal drivetrain losses, but that seems like a lot compared to the figures for the mustang 5.0 that BLM gave. __________________ Project: b1adeZmobile (2009 370Z) \| Uprev Tune by AAM Competition \| Berk Exhaust Project: b1adeZmobile 2.0 (2014 C7 Z51) \| Corsa Xtreme Exhaust

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