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Originally Posted by daisuke149 granted on that one, i test drove those a bit and its def not quite as crisp as a 370z. Going back to the they softened

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Old 02-09-2011, 02:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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granted on that one, i test drove those a bit and its def not quite as crisp as a 370z. Going back to the they softened it up a bit.

either way like others said gratz on getting a 370z whenever you do!
Oh yeah, I kind of impulse bought it after my WRX was totalled (Granny driver going 55 through a stop sign t-boned me) and my volvo turned into a fireball.... and someone offered me more for my supra then what I purchased it for lol.
I do like it, But I like really agressive driving cars and this is just not an agressive driving car. and the interior, while nicer then expected still isnt up to par when compared to a 370z
thank you! I plan on purchasing one by the end of next month.(still waiting on wrx accident to get settled so I can have a hefty down payment)

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Old 02-09-2011, 04:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
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My main complain about the Gen coupe is the transmission. Every one that I have ever driven has been terrible to shift. Everything else aside, I didn't buy one because of that.

The gearbox of my Z is legendary smooth... like butta... :-P
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I do find it interesting that the Genesis is going with direct injection for its mid cycle refresh, that could give some additional weight to the 2012 370z getting direct injection as well.
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My main complain about the Gen coupe is the transmission. Every one that I have ever driven has been terrible to shift. Everything else aside, I didn't buy one because of that.

The gearbox of my Z is legendary smooth... like butta... :-P

The sloppy shifting in the Z has been one of the biggest complaints about it. I almost didn't buy the thing because the shifter feels like a wet noodle.
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The sloppy shifting in the Z has been one of the biggest complaints about it. I almost didn't buy the thing because the shifter feels like a wet noodle.
you should go drive a hyundai 6 speed... : ) will worship the nissan one after that
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you should go drive a hyundai 6 speed... : ) will worship the nissan one after that
I know the Hyundai's are worse. I'm just saying that the 370z's is pretty bad. I've driven trucks with better feels transmissions.
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Test drove a 2010 Gen Coupe. Mushy like a boat. It's got kick and a little bit of style (although personally I think it's ugly as hell, not to mention Hyundai loves to steal design cues from other cars), but it's way too soft and does not make decent power for its displacement (in 2010 anyway). IIRC the first model of the Genesis Coupe had the 2.0 turbo and the 3.8 V6, and the V6 made 308 horses or so. The interior was also terrible, almost 350Z terrible. Lots of plastic and vinyl paneling. Heavy, too.

All in all the Z will always be a better choice because they've got a 30+ year pedigree. Nissan also competes in the JCTG, er, I mean, the SuperGT so you can expect some nice things to trickle down from a history in competitive motorsport.
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I have the choice and I think I'd take a used Z over a the Genesis but only because I'm paying cash. If I was financing I'd take a much closer look at the Genesis. I like the way they look and what they offer but.... theres a Z with name on it.
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I've driven both v6 gen and Z coupes. Both automatics. I really like the gens handling and I think for the price, its fit and finish is above average in its price range. BUT, that 6at is garbage. It can't hold gears like the 7at. Its not free revving. In other words the ecm makes sure it shifts like 500rpm before
Redline. Another issue I find is from 80 to around 100-105mph it gets really sluggish. Then suddenly bursts with a load of torque and the ecm is really intrusive on the torque.
What I love about the gen is it has a better lsd and the brembos are top notch in performance. But the gen can't come close to duplicating that exotic drive experience the Z provides. The Z is an unexplicably incredible machine for the price. I would like to see nissan as a whole on all models step into the 21st century when it comes to features though.
Lastly, I know the gencoupe is faster than my altima. But because its tranny is so crappy. It feels slower. When you make a sports car. You gotta have the sport factor no matter which tranny u buy. The Z has created a slushbox that if someone who didn't know drove it? They would think its a dct. Too many companies try to make sports cars and neglect the auto. (Mazda is king of auto neglect). I wouldn't say hyundai neglected ythe 6at. But they didn't R&D that well. If hyundai wants to compete. It needs 3 things.
1. Better transmissions
2. Better ECM/ECU
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If those things were improved? Nissan might feel some heat? Without these changes? The gen can get 380hp and it will still be inferior... let's see what 2012 brings????
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I like how this has turned into a serious discussion...
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Not too worried about Genesis Coupe having the same power since it weighs 400lbs more than a Z.
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I'm not going to lie. Their new products have a lot of eye appeal.
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I'm just impressed with how fast they went from "Who?" to what they are now.
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Maybe this one will be as fast as they made the first one out to be. I remember seeing reports with titles like "watch out Z" or "Mustang Killer" LMAO, that didnt work out like planed huh Hyundai?
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