The "Boss"

ImportConvert · 02-05-2011, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn

If you haven't already watched the hour long documentary on Speed about the new Boss, you probably shouldn't. If you do, you'll do whatever you can to get it.

If Ford is to be belived when they say it will lap a normal road-course about 2 seconds faster than the regular GT, that means it will do VIR in about 3:06. 2 seconds behind the GT500, and a good 4-6 seconds behind a base model C6 'vette.

Fast for a mustang, and an extremely killer bargain, but it's not going to start emberrassing GT-R's or anything unless the driver is to blame.

Junior370z · 02-05-2011, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

If Ford is to be belived when they say it will lap a normal road-course about 2 seconds faster than the regular GT, that means it will do VIR in about 3:06. 2 seconds behind the GT500, and a good 4-6 seconds behind a base model C6 'vette.

Fast for a mustang, and an extremely killer bargain, but it's not going to start emberrassing GT-R's or anything unless the driver is to blame.

It not suppose to compete with the GTRs.

flashburn · 02-05-2011, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Junior370z

It not suppose to compete with the GTRs.

Yeah, not sure why people are trying to compare this against cars that cost double or more. They went after the M3, and beat it, it's first lap out at LS, as a prototype.

m4a1mustang · 02-05-2011, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

If Ford is to be belived when they say it will lap a normal road-course about 2 seconds faster than the regular GT, that means it will do VIR in about 3:06. 2 seconds behind the GT500, and a good 4-6 seconds behind a base model C6 'vette.

Fast for a mustang, and an extremely killer bargain, but it's not going to start emberrassing GT-R's or anything unless the driver is to blame.

I actually think its going to be a lot quicker than that at VIR. Should approach the 3 minute mark there. The VIR lightning lap course is a lot longer than a "normal" road course. It definitely should be a lot quicker than 3:06. Its going to destroy the M3 and that's about what the M ran in the lightning lap.

ImportConvert · 02-05-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I actually think its going to be a lot quicker than that at VIR. Should approach the 3 minute mark there. The VIR lightning lap course is a lot longer than a "normal" road course. It definitely should be a lot quicker than 3:06. Its going to destroy the M3 and that's about what the M ran in the lightning lap.

I doubt it. The base 'vette with Z51 suspension ran around 3:01 or so, depending on the year, and that's about 400# lighter with very similar power and wider tires, IRS, and better aero.

I think the Boss will see a 3:04 at best. Of course, SVT will somehow manage to drive it to a never-to-be-duplicated 2:59 or something like they did the GT500.

theDreamer · 02-05-2011, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I doubt it. The base 'vette with Z51 suspension ran around 3:01 or so, depending on the year, and that's about 400# lighter with very similar power and wider tires, IRS, and better aero.

I think the Boss will see a 3:04 at best. Of course, SVT will somehow manage to drive it to a never-to-be-duplicated 2:59 or something like they did the GT500.

What?
Every 1/4 mile, lap time, etc. Ford has published has been done by the general public and many beaten. Ford posting a 12.8 1/4 mile for the new 5.0 got beat by a bone stock 12.6 run already, Ford has been one of the more 'accurate' companies when it comes to posting times.

ImportConvert · 02-06-2011, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

What?
Every 1/4 mile, lap time, etc. Ford has published has been done by the general public and many beaten. Ford posting a 12.8 1/4 mile for the new 5.0 got beat by a bone stock 12.6 run already, Ford has been one of the more 'accurate' companies when it comes to posting times.

That doesn't hold true for their 2:58.XX lap around VIR. In fact, the 2011 LL saw nearly a 6-second slower pace from the GT500 SVTPP car.

SVT are the ONLY ones who ever got a GT500 (stock) around VIR anywhere near the 3 minute mark, much less under.

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Originally Posted by flashburn

There were a few Boss 302R's in the Daytona Grand-Am 200 last week. One of them came in 2nd, and was very close to winning, but some late cautions killed it for them. It was beat by an M3, but I believe it had a V8 in it.

All current production M3's have V8's in them.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I think it's going to make a lot of Corvette owners very angry.

With the same power, and 400# more weight and a higher center of gravity, I don't see how. No way to know for sure though until some independant testing is done, though!

flashburn · 02-06-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

All current production M3's have V8's in them.

Ah, okay, I didn't realize that. For some reason I thought they had TT'ed V6's in them. I believe one of the M3's had the fastest track time at Daytona, not sure what the Boss' were running.

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