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crash1369 03-08-2011 04:15 PM
Making something lighter is relatively easy, making it lighter while improving the design is a bit more challenging. It can certainly be done, obviously, it just cost money but it looks like their ok with spending a little money on R&D these days so that shouldn't be a problem

LinPark 03-08-2011 06:19 PM
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It was a lot of smart decision making. Honestly, it never would have happened without Alan Mulally. After turning Boeing around he came in and started making wholesale changes.

He's got an engineering background which really helps with the end products, too. He knows what Ford needs to be making and focusing it's attention on to succeed. One of the more notable things he's done lately is issue notice to all Ford engineers that, if any new model after 2012 is not, at a minimum, 250 to 750 lbs lighter than the model it's replacing it will not be approved... no exceptions.

That's pretty cool because then you figure the 50th Anniversary Mustang (MY2014) will be around 3,350 lbs at maximum with likely ~450 hp in V8 form. :drool:

AND we're likely to see the 3.7L V6 replaced with an EcoBoost 4 banger.
You honestly think that rule will apply to the 50th Anniv Edition of the Mustang????? The only way they would meet those weight requirements and keep it affordable would be to weigh the car before they put the engine in it. :)

m4a1mustang 03-08-2011 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LinPark (Post 976245)
You honestly think that rule will apply to the 50th Anniv Edition of the Mustang????? The only way they would meet those weight requirements and keep it affordable would be to weigh the car before they put the engine in it. :)
It's going to be an entirely new chassis, so yes.

For the 2005 redesign the car actually got longer, wider, taller, and, well... heavier. The 2014 MY will be a good bit smaller in dimensions and the weight will be down as well. Shouldn't be hard at all considering my '03 GT weighed around 3250 lbs, and that's with an iron block 4.6L.

omgZ 03-08-2011 11:40 PM
Amazing car.

Isamu 03-09-2011 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 976257)
It's going to be an entirely new chassis, so yes.

For the 2005 redesign the car actually got longer, wider, taller, and, well... heavier. The 2014 MY will be a good bit smaller in dimensions and the weight will be down as well. Shouldn't be hard at all considering my '03 GT weighed around 3250 lbs, and that's with an iron block 4.6L.
you 'spose they will be moving to an aluminum block/heads?

ImportConvert 03-09-2011 06:31 AM
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you 'spose they will be moving to an aluminum block/heads?
They did that back in 2005.

Isamu 03-09-2011 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 976900)
They did that back in 2005.
ahh... my bad...

m4a1mustang 03-09-2011 08:05 AM
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you 'spose they will be moving to an aluminum block/heads?
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They did that back in 2005.
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ahh... my bad...
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Isamu 03-09-2011 08:51 AM
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what? I don't know much about mustangs... just that recently they have stepped up the game

ImportConvert 03-09-2011 08:56 AM
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what? I don't know much about mustangs... just that recently they have stepped up the game
Did you not do any research before buying your 370Z?

Just curious, as I researched everything within $20K either way of the Z06 before I bought. I would have HATED! to buy only to discover that the car I chose was constantly taking the back seat to another similarly priced car in every way, etc.

Hence the research, and hence ultimately why I am here. I considered a GTM TT 370 at one point.

m4a1mustang 03-09-2011 09:10 AM
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what? I don't know much about mustangs... just that recently they have stepped up the game
I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you. :p

m4a1mustang 03-09-2011 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 977013)
Did you not do any research before buying your 370Z?

Just curious, as I researched everything within $20K either way of the Z06 before I bought. I would have HATED! to buy only to discover that the car I chose was constantly taking the back seat to another similarly priced car in every way, etc.

Hence the research, and hence ultimately why I am here. I considered a GTM TT 370 at one point.
I'm with you, man. I know WAY too much about just about every car on the road. :rofl2:

ImportConvert 03-09-2011 09:21 AM
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I'm with you, man. I know WAY too much about just about every car on the road. :rofl2:
Yep. I have learned everything there is to know except what can be learned from the experience of owning a GT500, 370Z, CTS-V, Viper, and E92 M3, lol

ImportConvert 03-28-2011 12:48 AM
Well, edmunds GT500 beat their.boss ls on streets of willow during same day testing. Looks like my original opinion may have been the right one. Hmmm

m4a1mustang 03-28-2011 08:18 AM
Edmunds is hardly a good source for performance testing, though. I wouldn't put too much weight in their numbers other than their particular driver is faster with the GT500 than he is with the Boss... which too me likely means he wasn't really wheeling the Boss around the corners like he should have been. :)


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