The "Boss"

Lemers · 02-05-2011, 02:20 PM

I'll check my local listings. I don't like NASCAR because the cars don't have anything in common with their namesakes. While in japan inwent to some JGTC races those were great. I actually recognized the car they were racing. I assume it's kinda the same for Grand Am.

m4a1mustang · 02-05-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

I'll check my local listings. I don't like NASCAR because the cars don't have anything in common with their namesakes. While in japan inwent to some JGTC races those were great. I actually recognized the car they were racing. I assume it's kinda the same for Grand Am.

Yeah, the GT style cars start out as street cars. NASCAR is just a ground-up race car unlike the old days.

Grand Am is owned by NASCAR, though.

Lemers · 02-05-2011, 02:44 PM

But grand am uses street style cars right?

m4a1mustang · 02-05-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers

But grand am uses street style cars right?

In the GT class, yes.

Lemers · 02-05-2011, 02:54 PM

That's what I want to see.

ImportConvert · 02-05-2011, 02:56 PM

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I actually think its going to be a lot quicker than that at VIR. Should approach the 3 minute mark there. The VIR lightning lap course is a lot longer than a "normal" road course. It definitely should be a lot quicker than 3:06. Its going to destroy the M3 and that's about what the M ran in the lightning lap.

I doubt it. The base 'vette with Z51 suspension ran around 3:01 or so, depending on the year, and that's about 400# lighter with very similar power and wider tires, IRS, and better aero.

I think the Boss will see a 3:04 at best. Of course, SVT will somehow manage to drive it to a never-to-be-duplicated 2:59 or something like they did the GT500.

m4a1mustang · 02-05-2011, 03:05 PM

I think it's going to make a lot of Corvette owners very angry.

theDreamer · 02-05-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I doubt it. The base 'vette with Z51 suspension ran around 3:01 or so, depending on the year, and that's about 400# lighter with very similar power and wider tires, IRS, and better aero.

I think the Boss will see a 3:04 at best. Of course, SVT will somehow manage to drive it to a never-to-be-duplicated 2:59 or something like they did the GT500.

What?
Every 1/4 mile, lap time, etc. Ford has published has been done by the general public and many beaten. Ford posting a 12.8 1/4 mile for the new 5.0 got beat by a bone stock 12.6 run already, Ford has been one of the more 'accurate' companies when it comes to posting times.

flashburn · 02-05-2011, 06:50 PM

There were a few Boss 302R's in the Daytona Grand-Am 200 last week. One of them came in 2nd, and was very close to winning, but some late cautions killed it for them. It was beat by an M3, but I believe it had a V8 in it.

Vegitto-kun · 02-05-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by crash1369

seriously why the **** cant they just have the option of getting a mustang on special order.

ImportConvert · 02-06-2011, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

What?
Every 1/4 mile, lap time, etc. Ford has published has been done by the general public and many beaten. Ford posting a 12.8 1/4 mile for the new 5.0 got beat by a bone stock 12.6 run already, Ford has been one of the more 'accurate' companies when it comes to posting times.

That doesn't hold true for their 2:58.XX lap around VIR. In fact, the 2011 LL saw nearly a 6-second slower pace from the GT500 SVTPP car.

SVT are the ONLY ones who ever got a GT500 (stock) around VIR anywhere near the 3 minute mark, much less under.

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There were a few Boss 302R's in the Daytona Grand-Am 200 last week. One of them came in 2nd, and was very close to winning, but some late cautions killed it for them. It was beat by an M3, but I believe it had a V8 in it.

All current production M3's have V8's in them.

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I think it's going to make a lot of Corvette owners very angry.

With the same power, and 400# more weight and a higher center of gravity, I don't see how. No way to know for sure though until some independant testing is done, though!

flashburn · 02-06-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

All current production M3's have V8's in them.

Ah, okay, I didn't realize that. For some reason I thought they had TT'ed V6's in them. I believe one of the M3's had the fastest track time at Daytona, not sure what the Boss' were running.

ImportConvert · 03-08-2011, 02:37 AM

Well, numbers are out. I am truly and completely impressed with the Boss 302 being faster than the GT-R and Z06 out at Leguna Seca.

I am still curious how the car will do on a faster track, like VIR, in comparison.

Isamu · 03-08-2011, 03:09 AM

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Well, numbers are out. I am truly and completely impressed with the Boss 302 being faster than the GT-R and Z06 out at Leguna Seca.
I am still curious how the car will do on a faster track, like VIR, in comparison.

IN RED: Me too, Ford really did something amazing this time...and I'm not even close to being a ford guy.. but this just rocks

ImportConvert · 03-08-2011, 03:15 AM

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IN RED: Me too, Ford really did something amazing this time...and I'm not even close to being a ford guy.. but this just rocks

Totally. I still am happier with my Z06 than a mustang, but complete

to Ford. For $43K, I don't think you can beat the BOSS if you plan on buying new, staying stock.

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