If that picture is true (s2k v FT86) then the back seat is worthless and should just be removed.

http://www.tune86.com/sites/default/...onda_s2000.jpg

It also means this thing would haul with 300 ponies.

wow if this thing really is this small and powerful, the Z might have some serious competition

Plus it's turbo...the tuning potential for this thing will be immense for next to nothing in dollars. :O

ok, now it's finally starting to sound interesting to me. :yum:

mid-$20K is no issue. hell, release a TRD version for $30K. with the rear seats i would consider replacing my aging G35C. :D

I would trade my z in for this if it turns out good.

Depends for me. I'm a big fatarse. I can't fit in a Lotus Elise. I am uncomfortable in Miatas and S2K's. So, if it's small inside, I'm boned.

I guess the only choice for a light sports car these days is a Lotus Elise, or maybe a stripped Boxer. Oops, I forgot the Miata, though I wonder how many members of this forum would go that route. I would. My priorities will always be lightness and handling, if the alternative is a heavier car with more power.

/\ agreed.

don't safety requirements get bumped up again in '12? This car will weigh between 3100 and 3300 lbs I bet. Performance will maybe match our Z's stock, but the attraction is the modability of that turbo motor vs. our n/a VQ imo.

Is a Toyota, so I would consider it, since by 2013 the Z is going to be 4 yrs old with no warranty.

I think the Z is small enough for me. Not sure I would pick this up. I would rather stay with an icon in Japan and the US.

Can't wait to see this end product though. I bet most Americans will be unable to fit in it. Also, at that price, something's got to give.... With the Z people say it was NVH, I wonder what it will be with this.

I don't know... if this car had the STI engine and cost 30-35k I would trust it more. Also, it is suppose to be under the Scion brand. Something seems off to me...

All that said, I would not be surprised to see the Z go down the turbo 4 route like the next BMW 1M coupe will do. Lightweight, high-revving turbo 4; that or price will go into the 40s for the next Z.

as good as this sounds, i would never trade my Z in for this, just see it as formidable competition...get of my Z?? hell no! the Z is an Icon with Heritage...if i didnt do it for the 5.0, sure as hell wont do it for this thing

werd

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this is going to be a very formidible car...3000ish with an ej25..the mods are endless on this motor...it'll be scary fast.